Crazy paving quote

[kariba]

Hey all, been a while since I have been on but there is a new question for you experienced heads.

Got 450m2 of crazy paving to quote and was wondering how any of you go about it. Do you try and work out what you can do in a day and just do day rate or does anyone have a m2 rate they use.

I have laid crazy paving many times but all while working for other people. The stone is 20-30mm Endicott and will be laid individually on a mortar bed on a concrete sub-base.

Cheers

Dan

[lutonlagerlout]

ballpark all in £150 a M2

LLL

[kariba]

Cheers LLL. How would that compare to your rate for laying standard flags? Not worried about access or pavers just purely labour costs to lay. As I'm in Australia I'll see if I can work a % from your £rates.

Forgot to metion that the slab is already poured.

Cheers

Dan

[lutonlagerlout]

so if the slab is poured then you are just laying the crazy stuff straight onto a bedding material on the slab?

for normal flags or slabs I would charge around £100 per metre supply and fix
or £25 per metre lay only

with crazy paving the pointing takes all the time if its done right
I.E birds beak or flush

of course if you slurry it and clean after it would be a lot quicker

but anyway labour only £40 per metre (including pointing)

hope this helps

LLL

[kariba]

Yeah bed them individually on wet morter, make up a thick paste of water,bondcrete and cement to paint on the back of the stone. Thats the way I got taught anyway.

That helps heaps mate cheers, it's almost double the labour cost. I just slurry the joints, sponge them off then wash it. What's birdsbeak , a v in the joint?

[lutonlagerlout]

its lie an unpside down V
if you are slurry pointing it would be cheaper
maybe £25 per metre

but as I always say when someone asks how much money do I want

"as much as I can get!"
:laugh:

LLL

[kariba]

Birdsbeak looks nice, not sure if many out here would know what that is. You have a special trowel for that?

[kariba]

Haha yes I wish I could just quote what I want:p

[lutonlagerlout]

in the UK all *proper* crazy paving is pointed with birdbeak
it takes ages to do a metre

the alternative is work out how long you think it will take you ,times that by your daily rate then add 15-25% profit

we generally aim for 20% gross profit which after running costs ends up around 12.5-15 %

but it may work different in oz

wherabouts are you?

cheers LLL

[kariba]

Cheers for the info LLL. Learning the business side of it slowly!

I'm over in Perth WA. The quality of paving is not so good here, I asked the apprentice to see if his lecturer knew what in-board cutting was. Didn't have a clue!

Is there a page on here that shows birdsbeak pointing method?

Dan