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Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2016 11:28 am
by r0bgardner
We have had some paving laid that after a few weeks is is showing damp patches which I assume is showing the position of the spots of mortar beneath, and hence it has been spot laid rather than a full mortar bed
Is there any easy fix for this or is it a case of pulling it up and starting again
Thanks

Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2016 12:39 pm
by lutonlagerlout
take it up and start again
sorry
LLL

Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2016 12:41 pm
by r0bgardner
Will the paving be damaged at all by having been spot laid or when laid properly will the patches go away?

Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2016 11:13 am
by Tony McC
Just writing something about this very subject in more detail, hoping to publish later today, but the short version is that the stains are more-or-less permanent and the paving is essentially buggered.

Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2016 1:30 pm
by r0bgardner
What are the stains caused by. I thought the darker areas were where the motor was and the lighter bits where the voids are
Could send a pic if that helps but not sure how to attach one.

Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2016 1:33 pm
by blackspaven
I thought it was the other way around; where the water evaporates up through the porous slab taking the mortar with it, the water eventually evaporates completely leaving the cement efflorescence on top of the stone? Could be wrong though. :)

Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2016 8:21 pm
by Tony McC
Tony McC wrote:Just writing something about this very subject in more detail, hoping to publish later today
Now online at Reflective Staining

Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2016 11:59 am
by PavingSuperstore
Thanks for this Tony - spot on! Are you OK if we provide this link to some of our customers periodically? As we only provide the materials, we come across this problem from time to time as a result of the installers employed by our customers to undertake the work.

Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2016 10:08 am
by Tony McC
Yep - help yourself. As long as pavingexpert/Tony McCormack is credited as author and IP remaions with same, I have no problems with my work being linked.

Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2016 4:35 pm
by r0bgardner
The staining appears to almost totally disappear when it has been dry. Does this mean there isn't permanent damage and I could get away with getting it relayed on full mortar beds

Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2016 11:57 am
by Tony McC
Disappears when dry? That's unusual!

Can you get photies? Wet and dry, if poss, please.

Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2016 9:24 pm
by r0bgardner
Image

Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2016 9:27 pm
by r0bgardner
I'll bob them in an e-mail as struggling to upload

Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2016 12:27 pm
by Tony McC
I can't get them to load, either, but they show up fine on your webpage....

http://www.robpaving.webs.com

....looks like classic wicking to me, the flags drawing up moisture overnight and then drying out as the day moves on, before starting the cycle all over again at the end of the day.

Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2016 6:58 pm
by r0bgardner
Thanks Tony
Will either;
pulling the flags up and rebeding them
or sealing them
resolve the problem