Fixes for spot laid paving - Fixes for spot laid paving

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Post: # 109647Post r0bgardner

We have had some paving laid that after a few weeks is is showing damp patches which I assume is showing the position of the spots of mortar beneath, and hence it has been spot laid rather than a full mortar bed
Is there any easy fix for this or is it a case of pulling it up and starting again
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Post: # 109649Post lutonlagerlout

take it up and start again
sorry
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Post: # 109651Post r0bgardner

Will the paving be damaged at all by having been spot laid or when laid properly will the patches go away?
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Post: # 109675Post Tony McC

Just writing something about this very subject in more detail, hoping to publish later today, but the short version is that the stains are more-or-less permanent and the paving is essentially buggered.
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Post: # 109685Post r0bgardner

What are the stains caused by. I thought the darker areas were where the motor was and the lighter bits where the voids are
Could send a pic if that helps but not sure how to attach one.
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Post: # 109686Post blackspaven

I thought it was the other way around; where the water evaporates up through the porous slab taking the mortar with it, the water eventually evaporates completely leaving the cement efflorescence on top of the stone? Could be wrong though. :)
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Post: # 109704Post Tony McC

Tony McC wrote:Just writing something about this very subject in more detail, hoping to publish later today
Now online at Reflective Staining
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Post: # 109717Post PavingSuperstore

Thanks for this Tony - spot on! Are you OK if we provide this link to some of our customers periodically? As we only provide the materials, we come across this problem from time to time as a result of the installers employed by our customers to undertake the work.

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Post: # 109735Post Tony McC

Yep - help yourself. As long as pavingexpert/Tony McCormack is credited as author and IP remaions with same, I have no problems with my work being linked.
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Post: # 109776Post r0bgardner

The staining appears to almost totally disappear when it has been dry. Does this mean there isn't permanent damage and I could get away with getting it relayed on full mortar beds
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Post: # 109796Post Tony McC

Disappears when dry? That's unusual!

Can you get photies? Wet and dry, if poss, please.
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Post: # 109855Post r0bgardner

Image
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Post: # 109856Post r0bgardner

I'll bob them in an e-mail as struggling to upload
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Post: # 109882Post Tony McC

I can't get them to load, either, but they show up fine on your webpage....

http://www.robpaving.webs.com

....looks like classic wicking to me, the flags drawing up moisture overnight and then drying out as the day moves on, before starting the cycle all over again at the end of the day.
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Post: # 109888Post r0bgardner

Thanks Tony
Will either;
pulling the flags up and rebeding them
or sealing them
resolve the problem
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