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Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2015 2:51 pm
by yapper1901
just looking for a little help, bought a new build and the garden is rectangle just all grass except a small patio outside patio doors
so im looking to build two patios one outside patio doors and one at top of garden to host a seating area and bbq
have read through site and looked around and the prices seem to vary widely from £12 a sqm upto £50 sqm i think i have settled on Autumn Brown sandstone calibrated and probably looking to spend about £375 (£15 sqm) and just wondering is there anything i need to watch out for when picking a company to use ?
also is there any sites i can work out how much subbase i will need and cement and sand ? and also will i need to put a membrane between soil and sub base
probably gonna have lots more questions but think this will help me get started
Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2015 6:44 pm
by seanandruby
Yappie go to index and look under C for... calculaters :;):
Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2015 9:42 pm
by lemoncurd1702
Wouldn't worry about a membrane for a patio
Keyline are doing a Marshalls derivative for around £15/m2, good stuff..
Posted: Tue Aug 04, 2015 11:21 pm
by yapper1901
lemoncurd1702 wrote:Wouldn't worry about a membrane for a patio
Keyline are doing a Marshalls derivative for around £15/m2, good stuff..
Cheers for advice
Had a quick look online didn't come up on marshalls website but will pop down to them at weekend to see it is it similar to one I was looking at ?
Cheers for advice
Had a quick look online didn't come up on marshalls website but will pop down to them at weekend to see it is it similar to one I was looking at ?
Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2015 8:43 am
by London Stone Paving
yapper1901 wrote:have read through site and looked around and the prices seem to vary widely from £12 a sqm upto £50 sqm i think i have settled on Autumn Brown sandstone calibrated and probably looking to spend about £375 (£15 sqm) and just wondering is there anything i need to watch out for when picking a company to use ?
A few things to bare in mind when buying natural stone:
1. Colour variation. The batch of stone you buy is never going to look exactly as per the picture in the brochure or website, always expect some natural variation. If its possible go and visit the supplier and ask if you can see some of their current stock. Always worth having a look if you can
2. Excessive riven and looses cleft is always a sure fire sign of poor quality stone. If you do go and see before you buy keep an eye out for stone that is excessively bumpy or has loose cleft on the surface
Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2015 9:35 am
by yapper1901
thanks for advise, does anyone know of any decent places in and around chesterfield, sheffield
Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2015 10:44 am
by London Stone Paving
I dont know any suppliers in that region tbh.
When you are researching suppliers though, ask if they have a display or at the very least a yard where you can go and have a look at the current batch.
At least then you will know what to expect
Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2015 3:07 pm
by yapper1901
ok thanks just been doing a bit of research and it tells me to dig down 150mm the to lay between 50mm and 100 mm of mot type 1 not a couple of questions
1 ) the type 1 MOT the 50mm is that compacted ? or do I need to lay double what ever it is going to be compacted to
2) if my flags are going to be 22mm calibrated whats a ideal dig down i.e what layer of type 1 mot ? what layer of cement ?
thanks in advance
Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2015 5:23 pm
by lemoncurd1702
100mm base, around 30-40mm mortar bed plus the slab.
Type 1 can be a bugger to level and shouldn't be compacted in more than 75mm layers, so get it there about at 75mm compact and top up to final level with 20mm to dust, compact area again.
If you want to get your base spot on screed the final layer with a long bar or a plank before compacting.
Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2015 10:26 am
by yapper1901
so if i read that right i will need to purchase enough for 100mm of sub base so using calculators on this site for 20 sqm i will need 4 tons of dtp1 am i right in that as it seems alot ?
thanks for you help
Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2015 8:02 am
by lemoncurd1702
4T is about right for 20m2. If you're buying in bulk bags you will probably need 5 bags. I would order the fifth as 20mm to dust to top the base and get a decent profile to build off.
Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2015 12:02 pm
by Tony McC
Suppliers in/around Chersterfield - Cowley Stone near Worksop - everything you could possibly need for your project, plus loads of stuff you don't! :~)