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Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2011 5:40 pm
by Boy Wonder
Is it possible to purchase red diesel for a mini digger?
Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2011 5:57 pm
by Pablo
Absolutely you shouldn't be using anything else. Any diesel powered site machinery and tools should be using it as for where you can buy it try you're local coal and oil suppliers they usually have a pump in the yard.
Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2011 7:28 pm
by dig dug dan
speak to a friendly local farmer. He would more than likely sell you some.
you can buy it in small drums, delivered too
Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2011 7:43 pm
by digerjones
canal boat yards sell it. i used to get it from them but now i go to local farmer.
Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2011 7:49 pm
by Dave_L
digerjones wrote:canal boat yards sell it. i used to get it from them but now i go to local farmer.
Not any more, they all have to run white diesel now......
Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2011 8:11 pm
by Carberry
Dave_L wrote:digerjones wrote:canal boat yards sell it. i used to get it from them but now i go to local farmer.
Not any more, they all have to run white diesel now......
Not quite true but the law got more complicated. You can use red diesel for leisure boats but have to declare what percentage is for heating, generator etc and what percentage is for driving. The figures have to match up with whatever the limits of the particular boat and onboard equipment are.
You should be using only red diesel in your digger. Roughly 90p-£1 a litre for small quantities just now. The bigger companies normally leave you waiting 1-2 weeks for a barrel delivery as they wait until they have a full load of barrels to deliver on their motor. You will have a lot of trouble finding somebody to fill barrels from the tanker now, I don't know of anyone that does it anymore.
Cant tell you where to get it in wales, I can help anyone out in Scotland though.
Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2011 10:18 pm
by rab1
I know a scrap yard that will sell it to you but its harder to get small amounts as said before.
Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 10:43 am
by dig dug dan
dave is right, however, there is no enforcement. no one dips the canal boat tanks, and everyone is still getting away with it. I don't blame them either! they can't exactly take the canal boat off you like a car!!
Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 11:27 am
by Dave_L
It's bloody ridiculous if you ask me!!! If it were me I'd just carry on using gas oil!
Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 11:35 am
by Carberry
dig dug dan wrote:dave is right, however, there is no enforcement. no one dips the canal boat tanks, and everyone is still getting away with it. I don't blame them either! they can't exactly take the canal boat off you like a car!!
He is wrong about them not being allowed to use red diesel. They have complicated things though so most of them don't sell it at the low tax rate anymore.
They won't take the boat off you but they will shaft you. If they find that you have been illegally using it then they guess how long you have been doing it for, always erring in their favour, and screw you.
I've been selling red diesel for awhile now and need to know all this.
Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 11:56 am
by local patios and driveway
Still a few petrol stations that sell it round here.
Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 2:47 pm
by msh paving
3 statiions in my area sell it at 90p litre msh
Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 5:38 pm
by digerjones
garages sell it for the fridge engines. i pay 70p a litre cash, i'm proberly not paying the vat. its easy but i cant put it through books. canal yards sell it say 60/40. ie 60% for transport and 40% for leisure.
Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 5:58 pm
by Carberry
digerjones wrote:garages sell it for the fridge engines. i pay 70p a litre cash, i'm proberly not paying the vat. its easy but i cant put it through books. canal yards sell it say 60/40. ie 60% for transport and 40% for leisure.
Only 5% VAT on quantities less than 2300L so you're not missing out on much.
Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 6:43 pm
by msh paving
Carberry wrote:digerjones wrote:garages sell it for the fridge engines. i pay 70p a litre cash, i'm proberly not paying the vat. its easy but i cant put it through books. canal yards sell it say 60/40. ie 60% for transport and 40% for leisure.
Only 5% VAT on quantities less than 2300L so you're not missing out on much.
red fuel is 5% duty for agri. use regardless of how much you buy,
where did you get the 2300L from? MSH