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Boy Wonder
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Post: # 68817Post Boy Wonder

Is it possible to purchase red diesel for a mini digger?
Boy Wonder

Pablo
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Post: # 68819Post Pablo

Absolutely you shouldn't be using anything else. Any diesel powered site machinery and tools should be using it as for where you can buy it try you're local coal and oil suppliers they usually have a pump in the yard.
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dig dug dan
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Post: # 68820Post dig dug dan

speak to a friendly local farmer. He would more than likely sell you some.
you can buy it in small drums, delivered too
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digerjones
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Post: # 68822Post digerjones

canal boat yards sell it. i used to get it from them but now i go to local farmer.
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Post: # 68824Post Dave_L

digerjones wrote:canal boat yards sell it. i used to get it from them but now i go to local farmer.
Not any more, they all have to run white diesel now......
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Carberry
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Post: # 68828Post Carberry

Dave_L wrote:
digerjones wrote:canal boat yards sell it. i used to get it from them but now i go to local farmer.

Not any more, they all have to run white diesel now......

Not quite true but the law got more complicated. You can use red diesel for leisure boats but have to declare what percentage is for heating, generator etc and what percentage is for driving. The figures have to match up with whatever the limits of the particular boat and onboard equipment are.


You should be using only red diesel in your digger. Roughly 90p-£1 a litre for small quantities just now. The bigger companies normally leave you waiting 1-2 weeks for a barrel delivery as they wait until they have a full load of barrels to deliver on their motor. You will have a lot of trouble finding somebody to fill barrels from the tanker now, I don't know of anyone that does it anymore.

Cant tell you where to get it in wales, I can help anyone out in Scotland though.

rab1
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Post: # 68835Post rab1

I know a scrap yard that will sell it to you but its harder to get small amounts as said before.
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dig dug dan
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Post: # 68843Post dig dug dan

dave is right, however, there is no enforcement. no one dips the canal boat tanks, and everyone is still getting away with it. I don't blame them either! they can't exactly take the canal boat off you like a car!!
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Post: # 68844Post Dave_L

It's bloody ridiculous if you ask me!!! If it were me I'd just carry on using gas oil!
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Carberry
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Post: # 68845Post Carberry

dig dug dan wrote:dave is right, however, there is no enforcement. no one dips the canal boat tanks, and everyone is still getting away with it. I don't blame them either! they can't exactly take the canal boat off you like a car!!
He is wrong about them not being allowed to use red diesel. They have complicated things though so most of them don't sell it at the low tax rate anymore.

They won't take the boat off you but they will shaft you. If they find that you have been illegally using it then they guess how long you have been doing it for, always erring in their favour, and screw you.

I've been selling red diesel for awhile now and need to know all this.

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Post: # 68846Post local patios and driveway

Still a few petrol stations that sell it round here.

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Post: # 68849Post msh paving

3 statiions in my area sell it at 90p litre msh :)
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digerjones
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Post: # 68853Post digerjones

garages sell it for the fridge engines. i pay 70p a litre cash, i'm proberly not paying the vat. its easy but i cant put it through books. canal yards sell it say 60/40. ie 60% for transport and 40% for leisure.
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Carberry
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Post: # 68854Post Carberry

digerjones wrote:garages sell it for the fridge engines. i pay 70p a litre cash, i'm proberly not paying the vat. its easy but i cant put it through books. canal yards sell it say 60/40. ie 60% for transport and 40% for leisure.
Only 5% VAT on quantities less than 2300L so you're not missing out on much.

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Post: # 68855Post msh paving

Carberry wrote:
digerjones wrote:garages sell it for the fridge engines. i pay 70p a litre cash, i'm proberly not paying the vat. its easy but i cant put it through books. canal yards sell it say 60/40. ie 60% for transport and 40% for leisure.

Only 5% VAT on quantities less than 2300L so you're not missing out on much.
red fuel is 5% duty for agri. use regardless of how much you buy,
where did you get the 2300L from? MSH :)
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