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Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2015 6:49 pm
by Lyrik
I am looking for a professional surfacing contractor to replace my front lawn with bitmac and resurface current driveway. The proposed specification is as follows:-
Excavate approximately 45 SQM lawn to 225mm, remove small silver birch tree/roots and climbing plant roots, block edge approximately 15M only plus block edge double diamond design in the centre, replace plastic manhole cover with iron frame/cover, 150mm MOT, 50MM binder and 25mm SMA.
Current bitmac driveway (granite) is in reasonably good condition but will need some binder repairs in a couple of hollows and resurface approximately 45 SQM in SMA.
Drainage to run towards edge of new driveway to avoid planning. ready to commence immediately.
£40 including VAT per SQM for the full excavation and £20 including VAT per SQM for the resurface to include other parts of the specification above = £2,700 including VAT. This is a final proposal rather than an invitation to negotiate so not to waste anybody's time.
If you are an experienced machine rolled bitmac surfacer and this proposal is of interest could you send me a pm. Photos available
Thanks,
Lyrik
Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2015 10:44 pm
by cookiewales
Your on the wrong forum you need pikys are us pay cheap bad job 
Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2015 11:08 pm
by Kuts
Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2015 2:04 am
by mickg
you wont be wasting anyone time with those expectation Lyrik because I would be very surprised if anyone from pavingexpert contacts you in the first place
the clue is in the name of the site 
Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2015 7:15 am
by lemoncurd1702
15T type 1 £180
9T base mac £900 guesstimate
11T surface mac £1,100 guesstimate
Grab lorry £180
Small skip £120
Paving bricks, inspection cover, concrete and other sundries £200
Labour £20
Sub-total £2,700 + Vat
Good luck;)
This is not a quotation by the way:D
Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2015 8:08 am
by msh paving
^^^^ that gestimate does not allow for profit of 20%
good luck if you get it done for £2700inc MSH 
Edited By msh paving on 1422000553
Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2015 6:57 pm
by lemoncurd1702
msh paving wrote:^^^^ that gestimate does not allow for profit of 20%
good luck if you get it done for £2700inc MSH
Ah but the profit is in:
15T sub-base=5T
9T base-mac=4T
And so on.
This is where the dubious make they're profit.
Hope your still listening Lyric with a K.
I know the answers you're hearing here are not the answers you want but: "Buy cheap, buy twice"
:p
footnote: Just park on your lawn and spend the £2,700 on a 4 wheel drive
Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2015 10:14 pm
by lutonlagerlout
the bitterness of a shite job lingers long after the sweetness of a low price has melted away
maybe try gumtree or trust a trader , you can always get someone cheaper ,but pay cheap pay twice
its a reality check
LLL
Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2015 10:57 pm
by rab1
a piky would be hard pressed on that budget :O
Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2015 12:02 am
by neatcon
I smell a "RAT".
Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2015 12:09 am
by neatcon
I smell a "RAT".
Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2015 10:45 am
by Lyrik
Some of you are clearly missing the point
You are clearly missing the point that I have clearly set out a specification above so won't be a "shite" job. Also interesting that some contractors will charge inflated prices to the uninformed and bully little old ladies yet play the outraged card when someone dares to suggest a proposal with a bit of no how.
I already have a couple of established surfacing contractors talking this through with me who have taken the time to at least think through rather than making a low class throw away comment. It will of course be considered on a wages basis rather than greedy fat profit and keep their men employed if they are quieter at the moment. And then make their profits when much busier.
The only useful response in lemoncurds which has been considered. The predictable pikey, smiley face, scary mongering comments are judgemental and in my experience by those who operate unethically themselves.
Finally you may care to look at advice under the bitmac section on this website which recommends a cost sub £20 per SQM. Where do you think my knowledge comes from? As such I have doubled this up due to smaller area to surface to make what I consider to be a reasonable proposal.
It was an invitation of work to consider. Not an invitation to make cheap comments which I feel also cheapens what otherwise appears to be a professional website. Your potential clients read this remember.
Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2015 1:25 pm
by ilovesettsonmondays
I think what the regulars are trying to say in a normal manner lyrik is ,is it possible to get a high standard job for the price you have quoted.are you going to stand over and check everything that's being done . You only get one chance with Tarmac unless it's all taken up again or patched. I did a similar job last year with block edge and circle in the middle and was quoted 2100 for Tarmac ( sma) .that was all prepped .The lady decided on resin in the end and paid 2800 all in for the resin ,I can put a pic up for you if anyone can do it for me if I email pic.
Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2015 2:33 pm
by lutonlagerlout
lyrik the prices on here are from when tony Mc was contracting over 10 years ago
we spoke about this as they are all wildly low
bitmac now costs over £100 a tonne
the way to approach a contractor is to submit a specification and ask for a price
get 3-5 quotes but also listen to see if the contractor knows what they are on about
why would anyone go and do a job for wages is beyond me?
what is greedy about making a profit?
when you buy petrol do you worry about esso or shell making a *greedy fat profit*?
its how business works, but you clearly do not understand a basic business model
your comment about *Bullying little old ladies* is an insult to the hard working (mainly) men on this site
there have been elderly people come on here for advice, and I can think of at least 3 instances where local contractors have gone and done a small fix for free
heads up to mickg, darren, and matthew.
it seems a little knowledge is a dangerous thing
LLL
Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2015 6:17 pm
by seanandruby
Sexist comment lickdick, we don't just bully little old ladies, we bully little old men to...gotta eat :;): :p