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Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2016 9:51 am
by Tony McC
Azpects Ltd wrote:EASYJoint was the first and therefore the original all weather compound to launch in the UK.
That statement isn't correct. There were at least 3 other 'all-weather' resin-based jointing compounds available in Britain before EasyJoint was launched.
Romex as Easy or D1 has been around since 1998; VDW 840 and VDW 800 have been on the market since 2002, and much more widely available since 2004. Immobest Fugli, although not by any stretch of the imagination easy to find, has been knocking about since 2001, maybe 2002.
You could argue that GeoFix, despite being a bit of a joke product, is an all-weather product and has been buggering-up British and Irish pavements since the early 1990s.
Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2016 12:40 pm
by lutonlagerlout
I can vouch for geofix not being very good
had good experiences to date with weatherpoint365
LLL
Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2016 3:15 pm
by blackspaven
For those who are gonna go down the Easyjoint route, would a 5:1 or even 4:1 be acceptable to let it cure?? What's the maximum strength you should be able to get away with??
Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2016 11:10 am
by Tony McC
I'm not sure you've understood what EasyJoint is. It is not a product you mix like sand and cement. It's ready mixed, and you use it as it comes.
Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2016 12:32 pm
by blackspaven
Don't think you read the whole thread: The manufacturers instructions say Easyjoint ideally needs to be on a 7:1 base so that there's some sort of permeable base for air to get to the Easyjoint to cure and not have water sitting next to it. I was asking Azpects if a stronger base which would be less permeable would be acceptable or whether it would knacker the Easyjoint as it might not cure properly.
Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2016 4:46 pm
by msh paving
i would take the 7/1 or 5/1 idea with a pinch of salt about permablility,that small amount of cement would make little if any at all difference,
for a good job lay them on 5/1 nice and wet with SBR in the mix
i totally agree geofix is not good, in the late 1990's it cost me alot of money on failed pointing
MSH 
Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2016 11:20 am
by Azpects
Tony McC wrote:Azpects Ltd wrote:EASYJoint was the first and therefore the original all weather compound to launch in the UK.
That statement isn't correct. There were at least 3 other 'all-weather' resin-based jointing compounds available in Britain before EasyJoint was launched.
Romex as Easy or D1 has been around since 1998; VDW 840 and VDW 800 have been on the market since 2002, and much more widely available since 2004. Immobest Fugli, although not by any stretch of the imagination easy to find, has been knocking about since 2001, maybe 2002.
You could argue that GeoFix, despite being a bit of a joke product, is an all-weather product and has been buggering-up British and Irish pavements since the early 1990s.
EASYJoint is not resin based, you can argue some of those resin-based jointing compounds are all weather
We have certainly been at the forefront of the push for this particular type of Jointing Compound in the UK and bringing it into the mainstream
We can't comment on rivals but we'd recommend you read their instructions and small print before qualifying them as 'all weather'.
Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2016 11:28 am
by Azpects
blackspaven wrote:Don't think you read the whole thread: The manufacturers instructions say Easyjoint ideally needs to be on a 7:1 base so that there's some sort of permeable base for air to get to the Easyjoint to cure and not have water sitting next to it. I was asking Azpects if a stronger base which would be less permeable would be acceptable or whether it would knacker the Easyjoint as it might not cure properly.
We certainly used to suggest 7:1, we believe 6:1 is more realistic and in some cases you'll find 5:1 can still drain, however because of ambiguity we recommend 6:1 or weaker
You can apply EASYJoint using a dry method but we would always recommend you seal your paving prior to doing this to prevent any staining you could potentially get from the linseed oil present in EASYJoint.
(If you already have the slabs down but have not jointed them and plan to seal them, we'd recommend that after sealing you wait a 2 or 3 days for the sealer to dry prior to jointing your paving*)
The Dry Method can be accessed on our Azpects Site
http://www.azpects.co.uk/products/easy-joint.aspx
or on our older EASYJoint site
http://easyjoint.eu/using-easyjoint-dry-application.aspx
We do not currently have an instruction video on the Dry Method however in the future we are keen to get one done
Along with our Sealers and other Products
*Please bear in mind that if you have a newly laid patio using natural stone and you intend sealing it with a non-breathable sealer, then it's wise to leave the sealing process for 3 months to allow for any possible efflorescence (white blooming) to come up through the base material and through the stone and dissipate into the atmosphere. If you don't do this, use your sealer and then efflorescence comes through, there is a danger that you could trap these salts on the surface of the stone by sealing too early.
Our Natural Stone Sealers from the EASYSeal Range - SSP, Ultimate, Colour Enhancer, Sandstone, Slate & Limestone are all breathable sealers
For more on EASYSeal visit our webpage: http://azpects.co.uk/sealers-and-protectors.aspx