Easyjoint - Is it any good?

[alanef]

Hi, its been some 7 years or more I have been on this forum (no idea what my account was then). But glad it is still here and active.

So the summary question is 'is EASYjoint (Azpects) any good?' I know you describe these as polymeric motars variable and recommend Jointex.

Here is the long story.

We had a small courtyard (non vehicular, 30 sq mtrs) laid in indian sandstone (the base was already concrete) last year by a 'Checkatrader' hard landscaper.

They basically jointed (apart from edges) with a dry mortar mix (sand & cement) after a few weeks lots of joints had washed down and some flags wobbled. Called them back to rectify which they did.

But still joints has washed away and really now 10 months later, it needs sorting out. Although the firm was in Checkatrade they were a mobile / cash type of operation, and I don't feel inclined to call them back.

So I have had a couple of people come in to quote to scrape out and point up.

One suggested EASYjoint. I hadn't even thought / known about such a product. OK the job isn't massive, but I don't really want to be re-doing it yet again.

Whilst the original sub base is concrete, it had a massive fall, and to make the courtyard more acceptable this was squared up to some extent. What this means is, I am guessing, that they just levelled it with sharp sand and a dry mix so at one side the slabs will be on half an inch of sand (hopefully hardened) ad the other side about 5 inches of sand.

I understand that jointing wont solve a poor base, but I'm hoping it might aid stability.

Your thoughts & input most appreciated.

[sy76uk]

I've never used easy joint but have heard good things about it.

[alanef]

Cheers, thanks for that. Anyone else got experience with it?

[Azpects Ltd]

Hi Alanef

EASYJoint was the first and therefore the original all weather compound to launch in the UK. Since its inception it has undergone numerous improvements and we can confidently say that it leads the way with regard single component compounds.

Your question on suitability is a fair one and one that is answered in greater detail on our website. Jointing compounds in general are not designed to be a structural part of any paving project. The pavers must be securely fixed to the base - the filler will not keep pavers in place. Provided there is still a good fall and water can get away and provided the pavers are securely fixed in place, then EASYJoint will form a good and long lasting joint.

If we can be of any more assistance give us a call - our number is on the website. Good luck.

[London Stone Paving]

It would be great to hear from Azpects as to why your polymeric leads the way. There is such a bewildering choice now available on the market and it must be confusing for consumers to know which one to choose. It's also a subject that regularly comes up on this forum so it would be good to hear a bit more about it from the people who make the products

Steve

[msh paving]

i hope that Azpects Ltd come in the cabin more often and joins in on the polymeric problems and discussions MSH

[dig dug dan]

I have been using easy joint for a number of years now, and cannot fault it, it withstands presure washing, frost, rain etc, and its lasts the course unlike that romex that seemed to be knocking around for a while.
Its not cheap, but you get what you pay for!!

[danstan]

We have supplied Easy Joint for several years now. Excellent product with very few issues over this period of time. They are also now building an excellent array of accessory products.

[Azpects]

Thank you for the kind messages everybody!

Apologies for the slow reply, we are new to the forum and will do our best to respond to posts we feel are relevant to us in a timely manner

Having looked back across the archive, it does look like this topic comes up a lot so that is is why we were keen to sign up and contribute

[higgness]

I wonder if "Azpects" knows about "Azpects Ltd"?

[Azpects]

I wonder if "Azpects" knows about "Azpects Ltd"?

Funny story there, we are one and the same

We registered, posted the initial reply but had not registered properly and couldn't respond further down this discussion so have had to re-register as Azpects

Strange but true

[blackspaven]

Apart from Azpects themselves commenting (due to bias), what's the longevity been like for those who've used Easypoint? My patio is going down this weekend and I'm likely to be using either a 4:1 or 5:1 mix which Azpects seem to not recommend with their product so I'm probably looking down the route of good old fashioned mortar but am interested in how others have done over the long haul??

[Azpects]

Apart from Azpects themselves commenting (due to bias), what's the longevity been like for those who've used Easypoint? My patio is going down this weekend and I'm likely to be using either a 4:1 or 5:1 mix which Azpects seem to not recommend with their product so I'm probably looking down the route of good old fashioned mortar but am interested in how others have done over the long haul??

What did you use in the end out of interest?

The reason we recommend a weaker base is that EASYJoint requires air to cure and it won't cure when wet hence why you can use it in the rain.

Provided water can get away, EASYJoint will always cure and leave an excellent strong joint which will last years and years.

The original versions of EASYJoint have lasted up to 20 years in parts of Northern Europe where it originates. We have continued to develop and improve the product throughout the last 7 years.

If you want more info checkout our website: azpects.co.uk/products/easy-joint.aspx/



Now of course we have a bias but don't believe us, if the product was no good we wouldn't have lasted for very long. In actual reality we have had year on year growth since the beginning when we brought this product to the UK.

There are several firms (some quite big ones) who are now trying to imitate our product with mixed results. The fact others are copying us is a massive compliment.

EASYJoint in it's original form was made in Europe, however we have been manufacturing it in the UK in the last couple years. We sell it around the UK and Ireland as well as exporting it around the world.

I hope that gives you some insight!

[blackspaven]

Went for a 5:1 mix in the end, and apart from one hollow flag (could be delamination, could be a void, but it's stuck solid so I'm running with it until it possibly pops!!), but because the gaps vary between 10mm to 25mm due to using different size flags, I'm going for old fashioned mortar jointing. If the Easyjoint was cheaper, then I'd consider it, but happy to take my time with a trowel.

[Azpects]

Sadly we'll never be cheaper than sand and cement but where you do save is labour time and in the long run your back and knees (no need to get on your hands and knees to apply EASYJoint)

I'm sure you've done a decent job, thanks for considering our product none the less

We don't just do Jointing Compounds by the way
Here is our full product range for your consideration
http://www.azpects.co.uk/products.aspx