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Post: # 94815Post msh paving

the MAM of most 7.5t is 11000kg or 11t, my mistubishi cantor 7.5t IS 11000KG, BUT YOU NEED HGV licence to tow with a trailer as it over 7.5t. as giles says his man has a class 1, on a car licence you can only tow 750kg behing a 7.5tonner.
I always put the 3tonner on the back as i can carry 3.9t canters are a very light 7.5t lorry as there is no air system and chassis rails are narrower cab is lower ,
micro digger and 1.5t digger i tow behind disco, but if need be they all go on back of cantor and the concrete crusher, 3m long ali ramps rated at 1.5t each
I would not be without a 7,5 ton lorry when digging out and carting agregates, MSH :)




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Post: # 94816Post mickg

yeah my mistake, just re read what Giles said :)
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Post: # 94817Post GB_Groundworks

mickg wrote:how can that make any difference Giles, its the MAM of the vehicle not what licence you hold, I used to have my class 2 but I still could not go over any weight limit and be legal if stopped ?

to tow a trailer over 750kg with a 7.5 ton you need class 1 as its classed the same as a arctic max nam is 11200kg on our man 7.5 ton. weve got a new iveco with a lighter body not sure what that is yet as it need sot go for plate.

oops msh answered.

did yo ever find those trench props?




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Post: # 94819Post KLS

mickg wrote:I take it you had the steel drop side tipper Nigel and not the aluminium which is rated to carry just over 1800kg

I was going down the route of a disco Nigel as the MAM is higher but I felt its a one job item where as with a pickup you can carry stone, sand or a tracked dumper on the back and you can still tow the digger on a trailer
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The 1800kg fig is as a chassis cab with no body once you put the body and tipping gear on it will be more like 1200-1300 max.
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Post: # 94820Post mickg

I see where your coming from

as an example according to these two Autotrader listing its 1693 kg Payload, I did see a couple of pick ups listed a few weeks ago and maybe they lied with the spec hence the 1825kg max payload which is what I have gone off

[url=http://vans.autotrader.co.uk/used-vans/ ... 4e97670143
662d4bf33a17/bodytype/tipper/makemodel/make/ford/payload/min/1799?featuredListing=true]http://vans.autotrader.co.uk/used-va....ng=true[/url]

[url=http://vans.autotrader.co.uk/used-vans/ ... f4d101416e
269cbe0824/bodytype/tipper/makemodel/make/ford/payload/min/1799]http://vans.autotrader.co.uk/used-va....799[/url]

hmm might be back to the drawing board
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Post: # 94822Post msh paving

I'am on the case giles...they in the back of my shed just have to get through the stuff in the way...lol
Never heard of a tranny tipper that can carry anymore than about 1.4t, a 3way tipper trannny will carry 1.05t...useless
nissan cabstar will carry 1.6t, it very hard to carry anymore on a 3.5t gross truck

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Post: # 94823Post tarmal & Co

I am in the process of doing my c1+e hgv test at moment.
This will entitle me tow up to 12000kg. On my Iveco 7.5 ton tipper my train weight is 11000kg, so legally I will have the ability to carry a good amount of weight legally.
Course only costing £750 will pay for itself very quickly.

I wasn't aware you could legally tow so much with smaller vans, discoveries etc, this seems crazy. Be careful towing all them weights. You may have to brake quickly one day.

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Post: # 94824Post ambient

my 319 sprinter has an uprated towing system supposedly it can tow 3 or 3.5 ton
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Post: # 94826Post mickg

has anyone heard of a Isuzu or Iveco drop side tipper with a MAM of 6500kg

Tony what's the maximum weight you can tow behind your 7.5 ton wagon
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I think its 3.5 ton
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Post: # 94828Post mickg

is that due to you having grandfather rights of passing your test before 1997 ?
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Post: # 94831Post lutonlagerlout

this whole issue seems to be a legal minefield
as kieran rightly mentioned payload figures are for a chassis cab
so to keep right i never go over 1.5 tonnes

also how often do you need to pick up 3.5 tonnes of gear?

a pick up for me is to pick up the odd tonne or half tonne of agg when you have had your 10 tonne or whatever delivered

I know there can be a slight saving at the quarry
I.e. I can pick up a tonne of sand for £15 a heath and reach sand pits
but I can buy it for £30 at butterfields which is 15 miles closer
the only people i see regularly overloading are the pikeys
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Post: # 94832Post mickg

Most of the listing on ebay for a transit drop side tipper are showing a payload of 1725kg and a GVW of 3500

I hear what your all saying but i will call into a ford dealer and get this confirmed
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Post: # 94833Post dig dug dan

The biggest weight carrier is the cabstar, which is why the mounted cherry picker uses them. The transit payload on a tipper will not be anywhere near that. Thats the payload on a chassis cab
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Post: # 94834Post GB_Groundworks

Soon all the grandfather rights are going yo be rescinded and you'll need to do the test to drive 3.5 ton plus.

long term im thinking moving towards a 11 ton wagon with a small drag on it for moving the smaller machines under 8 ton

something like this

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm....6799d28

seems popular in europe and with the planer lads

something like this would be perfect few year off though

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i know dave runs a big scania T cab with a small box and a drag but to big for me.




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