Lance armstrong - First i'd ever heard

[Carberry]

Bigger, Stronger, Faster documentary

IMDB page for it

[rab1]

my mate has won mr scotland ect for body building and you could not compete in that sport without drugs but they turn a blind eye to it.

[lutonlagerlout]

Most our cycling track golds set new world records

track and field giles
LLL :;):

[GB_Groundworks]

i thought pablo was referring to cycling as most his post was about cycling hehe

[haggistini]

ram them full of the stuff i wanna see a 100m in 4 seconds ...bit like a benny hill clip if you know what i mean

[Carberry]

ram them full of the stuff i wanna see a 100m in 4 seconds ...bit like a benny hill clip if you know what i mean

Make it just like a benny hill clip, minus benny hill ie: nice women with huge cans running about in their underwear.

Make rollercoasting in your underwear an olympic sport too

http://www.youtube.com/verify_age?next_url=/watch%3Fv%3DMX6QBOcSur0

[Carberry]

New York times article

Have a look at the image at top of this article. Shows the top 10 from tour de france from last 14 years and which of them have been caught for doping.

Also heard this joke today.... Finally achieved my lifelong goal of having as many tour de france titles as Lance Armstrong

[Carberry]

Lance Armstrong tweeted this image :laugh:

[lutonlagerlout]

TBH stewart he doesnt look too fussed does he?

all the so called evidence against him is testimony by 1 big firm of grasses,all of them pointing at him whilst admitting doping themselves

we have seen in this country that supergrass evidence is often unreliable

I am not defending him but without 1 shred of physical evidence its a hard call

LLL

[seanandruby]

maybe you think taking ''acceptable social'' drugs a bit of a larf and harmless. But will you still think that when, because of hero worship, your children and grandchildren will be snorting, skin popping and mainloning? The likes of him should be banned and title stripped to show it doen't pay in the long run. If i tested positive at my job, i'd be goonered straight away, so why not so called 'heros'. Now there's a word that's wasted on sports persons.

[lutonlagerlout]

sorry,are you talking to me sean?
we arent talking about social/anti-social drug taking
we are talking about doping in sport

my point is they have stripped and banned him already, to all extents and purposes he is a doper ,but there is not 1 shred of physical evidence

just all his old team mates grassed him up to save their own skins

doper he may be,but he has raised 500mill for charity

it just goes to show no-one is black or white in real life
just shades of grey

LLL

[London Stone Paving]

It was certainly a witch hunt. Somebody wanted to take him down.
I think it's refreshing to see that somebody so high profile has been brought to account. How often do we hear about people in high positions (in all walks of life) being able to avoid punishment because of "who they are". Even though It's quite clear that the majority of professional cyclists are on drugs, it does not make it right. Of all the cyclist drug cheats, Armstrong was the king. He was the best at cheating and he profiteered the most from cheating, quite right that he should now face some consequences.

He has raised millions for charity but surely there is a principle at stake here.

[seanandruby]

so you would forgive jimmy saville to then on the basis? he raised millions for charity ??? I have done lots for charidy, swimming, cycling, running, sha'......strike that last one :;): but they did'nt let me keep the money from the mailbag and still gave me holidays at the queens guest house. He is a bad role model for the younger generation, so strip hom naked of all his trophies and any prize , or advert money

[Carberry]

so you would forgive jimmy saville to then on the basis? he raised millions for charity ??? I have done lots for charidy, swimming, cycling, running, sha'......strike that last one :;): but they did'nt let me keep the money from the mailbag and still gave me holidays at the queens guest house. He is a bad role model for the younger generation, so strip hom naked of all his trophies and any prize , or advert money

Big difference between those 2. Jimmy Saville destroyed the lives and innocence of hundreds of children. Lance Armstrong was Blood doping which for the most part is harmless. If it was going to affect anyone it was only himself.


LLL: Don't think he gives a sh*t. He has made his fortune, he knows he won those 7 titles and is the 2nd greatest cyclist in history and nothing is going to change that.

[seanandruby]

no diffeerence blood dopping, taking illegal substances puts it into kids heads that it's ok to cheat, take drugs etc: it's still doing shit you should'nt do in the public eye, or in private either. No lll i did'nt just mean you, it's a/debate that involved all in the brew cabin not just the bosses