Welfare reforms

[ilovesettsonmondays]

went up north two weeks ago. changed trains at chester . got myself a seat on train and a couple got on in their teens with a baby.after about ten mins mummy teen holds baby up . im mummy bitch and thats dickhead daddy. god help that kid

[seanandruby]

the funding should go in curing the junkies, take them off the street etc. Wish they would lock my lad in a secure unit until he was off the gear. Bumped into him yesterdsy with his pregnant girlfriend and her ex boyfriend ??? They had been to boots for their methodone. It's sad to see it, it breaks your heart. They are trying but it's a vicious circle.

[DNgroundworks]

the funding should go in curing the junkies, take them off the street etc. Wish they would lock my lad in a secure unit until he was off the gear. Bumped into him yesterdsy with his pregnant girlfriend and her ex boyfriend ??? They had been to boots for their methodone. It's sad to see it, it breaks your heart. They are trying but it's a vicious circle.

Bloody hell Sean didnt know that, how old is he?

Some lads i wet to school with went down that route, its sad to see.

[lutonlagerlout]

my brother had a long career in drugs and in the end the thing that cured him was 4 1/2 years in nick, he had ripped everyone off outside so no one would pay for gear for him inside
it still saddens me that hard drugs are so easily available in prisons although i hear its getting better
methadone helps but your son would probably be better in a different part of the country Sean, brighton and the surrounds are full of it
good luck
LLL

[henpecked]

Well everyone's missing a trick here, most of what Camagoon and Clunnt are suggesting is tosh.
The large proportion of the benefits (as Pablo pointed out) is for rent, again the poor sod on the dole will be being bashed over the head again through the fault of greedy landlords who rent their properties out +10% of what they know the dole pays.
Same with the sick payments, it was the government who rolled up all the junkies and pish heads up on 'the sick' ,and now theyre saying 'Oh, most of the people who are on sickness can work(no shineola ,Sherlock), lets cut the lot'

I had cancer last year, luckily enough I worked through it and my employer paid me sick leave. I joined the MacMillain site to get some support, and I thought I was actually 'winging it' (believe it or not) when I read some of the other peoples stories.
One lady had bowel ,breast and ovarian. They had stopped her benefits 'to assess' she said by time they reinstated them, she would have been dead. Sadly she ahs passed away now, but it points out the ludicrousness of some of the policies.

[local patios and driveway]

Make them all clean the streets as a return for the money, dont give out cash at all just stamps for the basics, no larger than 3 bed semi. Cap it at 2 kids per claimant.

I reckon a few would get up and find some work but then we would only have more unemployment and we would all have to lower our prices to compete.

[lutonlagerlout]

hen i have rented houses/flats to people on the dole and wouldnt go there again
the money takes a long time coming and contrary to popular belief the council sets the rates for private landlords
I have had a couple or three that were good (people unexpectedly out of work) but the long termers were just a pure nightmare
I am not advocating forced labour or stuff like that and i do believe families should be housed
but not in super posh areas
there is definitley a carrot and stick these days for certain young women to have a couple of kids
2 bed flat- £180 per week-bills paid
I know women under 25 and they are on the ale 3-4 times a week and smoking every day
never done 1 days work in their lives
it is a career choice for them
LLL

[henpecked]

there is definitley a carrot and stick these days for certain young women to have a couple of kids
2 bed flat- £180 per week-bills paid

Well, who can afford a family these days without the dole? We will need someone to pay our pension when we are retired ,as you can imagine, the subs we have put in were spent a long time ago.
On the rental thing, I know the council set the rates, but landlords insist on charging 10% on top so the dole-ie has to fork out to pay for landlords holiday whilst living in a (on the whole) poorly maintained property.
Who is underpinning the massive 'buy-to-let' market created by the boom? the one that shut out first time buyers buy artificially increasing the cost of housing.

Sorry mate, dont get me on me soap box about his one :;):

[lutonlagerlout]

this post does not make any sense ???
I support myself ,missus, and miss , 1 dog, 2 parrots, and an alcoholic uncle
I can go out maybe once a week,holiday once a year,10 year old car

is it fair that people who have never worked and have no intention of working ,can have a better life than us?
paid for by us

we would have liked more kids but as we were both working when miss lout was a toddler, it would have cost us an extra £150 on top of miss lout's £200 a week nursery fees
effectively the missus would have been working for nothing

I dunno about other parts of the country but there is a massive sub culture in luton of fiddling
the dole,getting on the sick, renting houses of close relatives and fiddling housing benefit

they will all be down yates or wetherspoons now drinking our hard earned ,that cant be right? surely
LLL

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[henpecked]

this post does not make any sense ???


I dunno about other parts of the country but there is a massive sub culture in luton of fiddling
the dole,getting on the sick, renting houses of close relatives and fiddling housing benefit

they will all be down yates or wetherspoons now drinking our hard earned ,that cant be right? surely
LLL

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Well read the prior post on the 'sick culture' .As ive said most of the 'sick' are acutally burnt out alkies or drug abusers,put on 'the sick' because the govenment does know how to deal with them effectively.
I made a few points in the above post, just send me a PM on the bits that are ot making sense.

:;):

[Bob_A]

Make them all clean the streets as a return for the money............

I know this isn't going to happen but I'd like to see a shift in peoples attitudes towards different types of jobs.
I reckon street cleaners and anyone else who makes the enviroment a better place should be promoted up the social tree. We should thank them for doing a very important job, treat them as important people and remove the stigma from their job. That way there might be more people who would do the job.
On the other hand people who make money without contributing much to the enviroment like some of those city workers should be taken down the social ladder below the cleaners.

I know it's not going to happen but it would be part of my plan to improve the world.

[Carberry]

On the other hand people who make money without contributing much to the enviroment like some of those city workers should be taken down the social ladder below the cleaners.

By the way if anyone here is in advertising or marketing... kill yourself.

No, no, no it's just a little thought. I'm just trying to plant seeds. Maybe one day, they'll take root - I don't know. You try, you do what you can. Kill yourself.

Seriously though, if you are, do.

Aaah, no really, there's no rationalisation for what you do and you are Satan's little helpers. Okay - kill yourself - seriously. You are the ruiner of all things good, seriously. No this is not a joke, you're going, "there's going to be a joke coming," there's no f*cking joke coming. You are Satan's spawn filling the world with bile and garbage. You are f*cked and you are f*cking us. Kill yourself. It's the only way to save your f*cking soul, kill yourself.

Planting seeds. I know all the marketing people are going, "he's doing a joke..." there's no joke here whatsoever. Suck a tail-pipe, f*cking hang yourself, borrow a gun from a Yank friend - I don't care how you do it. Rid the world of your evil f*cking makinations. Machi... Whatever, you know what I mean.

I know what all the marketing people are thinking right now too, "Oh, you know what Bill's doing, he's going for that anti-marketing dollar. That's a good market, he's very smart."

Oh man, I am not doing that. You f*cking evil scumbags!

"Ooh, you know what Bill's doing now, he's going for the righteous indignation dollar. That's a big dollar. A lot of people are feeling that indignation. We've done research - huge market. He's doing a good thing."

Godammit, I'm not doing that, you scum-bags! Quit putting a godamm dollar sign on every f*cking thing on this planet!

"Ooh, the anger dollar. Huge. Huge in times of recession. Giant market, Bill's very bright to do that."

God, I'm just caught in a f*cking web.

"Ooh the trapped dollar, big dollar, huge dollar. Good market - look at our research. We see that many people feel trapped. If we play to that and then separate them into the trapped dollar..."

How do you live like that? And I bet you sleep like f*cking babies at night, don't you?

"What didya do today honey?"

"Oh, we made ah, we made ah arsenic a childhood food now, goodnight." [snores] "Yeah we just said you know is your baby really too loud? You know?" [snores] "Yeah, you know the mums will love it." [snores]

Sleep like f*cking children, don't ya, this is your world isn't it?

[Bob_A]

I didn't get that at first but after a little research it appears to be this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDW_Hj2K0wo


I think the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy had a good idea on how to rid such people.
Send them on a spaceship filled with bodies, such as frozen telephone sanitisers, hairdressers, and advertising account executives.
Although personally I'd keep a few hairdressers back for the long haired layabouts.

[Carberry]

I didn't get that at first but after a little research it appears to be this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDW_Hj2K0wo


I think the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy had a good idea on how to rid such people.
Send them on a spaceship filled with bodies, such as frozen telephone sanitisers, hairdressers, and advertising account executives.
Although personally I'd keep a few hairdressers back for the long haired layabouts.

I love Bill Hicks Think he's hilarious.

[rab1]

Bill hicks is really funny.