Stairs

[seanandruby]

Happy Easter all.
I am taking out my old stair rails, newel posts etc. The old one's are the type with an allen key fitting, a bit crap really. Has anyone any idea, apart from 4'' screws, what fittings i need to fix the base of posts. Project manager ( the wife ) will be here to scrutinize the job, so need to make it strong
:;): Also what are the regulation heights of rails? I think the stairs are 900 but there seems to be a difference of opinion on landing height ???

[mickg]

screws and pva glue

Minimum domestic handrail heights of 900mm for both stairs and landings
Building Regulations requirement that no openings in any balustrading should allow the passage of a 100mm sphere.

[lutonlagerlout]

do you mean the base of the newel posts sean?
we use 100mm screws ,pva and dowels after

me and my mate fitted a kitchen today,we allowed 2 days but everything went sweet
I just went to hang the last cupboard door and howdens had given us 1 hinge pack short,
got 1 whole extra legth of worktop,1 full legth of pelmet, and 3 extra 600mm door fronts but 1 hinge-pack short arghhhh

where do ya reckon i could get these tomorrow morning?
please dont say in your van or shed,i threw away about a sackful of leftover kitchen bits at xmas

thanks in advance

LLL

[Dave_L]

Howdens not open tommorrow Tony??

Howdens are great but sometimes their deliveries/invoices have huges descrepancies!

[seanandruby]

..............Maybe a car boot sale :;): complete newels. The old ones were only 65mlx65ml, new ones 90ml, much better and modern. They had put the base rail on upside down then just tacked the top and bottom. the post actually snapped because a stub mortise joint weakened it. had to break out some screed to get it out and profile it in with the stairs and stub mortise joint for the string, a lot of work but base post in, and landing one taken out. Same thing tomorrow cutting around rsj and another stub mortise and tenon joint for the string. Like you LLL kitchen next, be a breeze after the stairs

[msh paving]

Howdens open in kings Lynn on a saturday...... if you fancy a ride out from luton.... MSH

[lutonlagerlout]

you sure mark?
when i picked up 2 doors that were short on the delivery docket ,they said they were closed friday till tuseday
I have to say fitting howdens kitchens is a piece of cake

,compared to the flatpack ones its a walk in the park
as long as your walls and floor are fairly true,its hard to get wrong
my only slight wobble was cutting the sink out of the worktop

but as dave L says ,their orders are never 100% correct anyway and never have been as far as our deliveries are concerned
BUT all the gear is in stock,which is handy
when they are open!!!
LLL

[msh paving]

Ahhh never thought about easter break,maybe they will be shut.
ive been working today and MKM merchants was open till 12 mid day chears tony MSH

[irishpaving]

Give them a call in the morning Tony they might still open

[dig dug dan]

got some hinges from my B and Q kitchen i fitted in the old house, if they fit tony?

[lutonlagerlout]

thanks fellas but i went on the hunt and plumbs DIY is open tomorrow,
I don't want to go into one of the sheds on Easter break :;):
it could take hours,
LLL

[seanandruby]

Looked on line for a few tips on erecting the balustrades etc.
Master carpenter says: " fixing stairs is the hardest job a chippie can do, so much working out etc, at least four days work for a carpenter and mate." He ain't wrong, there is so much detailing. Done all the newel posts, now for the bannisters. Tool of the day....a sliding bevel :;):

[mickg]

fixing stairs is the hardest job a chippie can do

absolutely correct Sean especially if the timber is to be stained or is pre finished as there is no room for error as any filler used will show, in fact a lot of joiners can't fix stairs let alone fix the handrails and balustrades

are you cutting all the balustrades by hand ?

well done with the hyperlink on the other thread

[lutonlagerlout]

chop saw for the win on stairs!!
i can do some chipie type stuff but stairs are well beyond my remit
regards LLL

[seanandruby]

fixing stairs is the hardest job a chippie can do

absolutely correct Sean especially if the timber is to be stained or is pre finished as there is no room for error as any filler used will show, in fact a lot of joiners can't fix stairs let alone fix the handrails and balustrades

are you cutting all the balustrades by hand ?

well done with the hyperlink on the other thread

Maybe just a tingy, wingy error ??? :laugh: They are easier from new. It's always dodgy when upgrading anything, you have to rely on the previous persons work being spot on.