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Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 12:52 pm
by Injured
I am struggling to get my head round this.
Every job I go to measure up that involves work at the front of the propertry I tell the homeowner about the need for dealing with the water in a sustainable way in line with the planning regs.
But when I do tell them they all seem to say the same thing no one else has said anything they say they will just pipe the water away or drain it onto the road.
Do we have an obligation as honest people to tell them or do we keep quiet and just pave the area and let the homeowner carry the can??
I feel like I am the only one trying to play by the rules 
Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 1:01 pm
by lutonlagerlout
same here injured,i find about 1:10 is up for it
however if they want you to work without it just get them to sign a contract to that effect
cheers LLL 
Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 6:48 pm
by DNgroundworks
i concur with LLL, they never want to pay the extra cost, so i just carry on, at the end of the day if you explain the legislation as best you can and they still decide not to go ahead with the suds then crack on, its their responsibility as there the homeowner.
Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 8:04 pm
by dig dug dan
Its an absolute joke to be honest.
Guy in my road had some clown remove his tarmac, spread a bit of sand and then had tumbled blocks laid.
neighbour reported him for no drainage, council said as long as you just put an aco in, even if it is not connected to anything, its ok.
Thats exactly what he's done, so when it fills with water, the excess spills onto the highway as it did before. 
Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 9:46 pm
by Injured
So i might aswell not say anything like the other contractors and just ignore the legislation then ??
Confused.com now
Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 9:58 pm
by dig dug dan
i would as the onus is on the householder, not the contractor!
Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 10:44 pm
by Dave_L
I always price any drainage work [to comply] as a seperate item so that my quote remains on-par with those who don't include any drainage work. That way I know I've got a good chance at winning the job.
Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 11:15 pm
by haggistini
if the aco's he installed are not capped on the end then would this not be classified as a soak away or least giving the water a chance to go back to ground?? hang on been down this road before (locked thread) !!!! I inform customers the best i can as this subject is cloudyer than a pint of worthy woosh and they all say f**k that! it all depends on your local corrupt counsil slime balls and busy body neighbours saying" ooh hope you got planning for that" ...jealous twits
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Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 11:18 pm
by haggistini
P.[ranting]S. has anyone acually installed a full blown permi paving pea gravel job if so how's it looking now and what results have you had??????
Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 12:41 am
by rab1
seen them done on major jobs 1000 plus m2 and are still looking good after 3yrs but think multi national main contractor and 10 ton plus rollers on sub base etc etc.
Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 7:35 am
by seanandruby
Yes.Most of mine are on big jobs, attenuation as big as your house. Last one in slough, massive car parking and delivery area. Used composite lining under the grit and sub-base to direct the surface water to a 300 perforated carrier pipe, wrapped in terrain, then that goes into the units.A pumping system is installed for irrigation of the soft lanscaping etc: The paving has some serious weight on it and has'nt sank a mil'. Next time i'm there i'll get some photos'.
Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 10:54 am
by dig dug dan
it all depends on your local corrupt counsil slime balls
our council make the rules up as they go along. One guy on our estate moved his boundary fence out to claim some "amenity" land, and he was told to take it down.
When a neighbour of his over the road did the same, they said it was fine as "they had reviewed each case on its own merits"
Back on track, how on earth do you pressure wash these new type of drives without all the gravel flying off everywhere??
Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 8:27 pm
by Hawk
you dont pressure wash them, you are not even supposed to wash your car on them, and the 6mm laying course has to be replaced every 10 years, what a load of crap this permeable paving is
Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 9:04 pm
by dig dug dan
you dont pressure wash them, you are not even supposed to wash your car on them
what a waste of space! no wonder no one bothers!
Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 7:30 pm
by ambient
anyone know what the regulations are for replacing a tarmac drive its not going to be any bigger or change in any way other than new tarmac ???
