Page 1 of 3
Posted: Sat May 09, 2009 10:17 pm
by IanMelb
Neil Oliver, the Scottish chap from the BBC Coast programme, has written a book called "Amazing Tales for Making Men out of Boys".
The Sunday Telegraph review, titled "Neil Oliver: where have all the real men gone?", had the byline "TV historian Neil Oliver wants to resurrect the 'manly man' by telling tales of old-fashioned heroism"
From the first page of the introduction:
Men used to live by the skills of their hands. They made new things and fixed old. They maintained their houses, cars and motorbikes. They knew how to grow food and how to hunt and fish. They dressed like men, talked like men, walked and worked and played like men.
Their jobs had names that are becoming as unfamiliar to us as calloused hands and ingrained dirt. They were fitters, turners and carpenters; blacksmiths and wheelwrights; ploughmen and woodsmen; wheel-tappers and shunters; masons and glaziers; tailors and cobblers; riveters and welders.
...
Part of the education of boys came from the telling of tales of brave and selfless deeds, or hearing from fathers and uncles and grandfathers about how other men had lived their lives, met their challenges, reached their goals and faced their deaths.
It was simple, honest stuff about standing up straight with your shoulders back and eyes to the front like a soldier. It was about making light of physical hardship and keeping going until the job was done.
Something tells me that a few of the irregulars here would appreciate this stance ... 
Posted: Sat May 09, 2009 10:39 pm
by seanandruby
Where have all the real men gone, long time passing Where have all the real men gone, long time ago.Where have all the real men gone, turned into dossers, killers and scum. When will they ever learn, when will they ever learn ???
Posted: Sat May 09, 2009 10:47 pm
by henpecked
did a search for real men and it came up with this???..........
:O :O :O :O
HP
Posted: Sat May 09, 2009 11:43 pm
by Suggers
Bit obvious, but a classic...
Posted: Sun May 10, 2009 3:07 am
by lutonlagerlout
Brown on resolution by C.S Forester
blinding read
LLL
Posted: Sun May 10, 2009 5:29 am
by GB_Groundworks
got it and read it, just waitng for my little boy to me old enough to read it to him, amazing book.
Posted: Sun May 10, 2009 7:39 am
by Mikey_C
I was in a shop changing room (separate mens and ladies) the other day, I could hear what i thought was two gay men discussing the items they were trying on "i just don't think v-neck suit me" "clothes from this shop just don't seem to have the right fit". When I had finished I went to leave, the what I thought was two gay men turned out to be two 10 year old'ish lads.
I fear that the increasing number single mums is creating men that are anything but men, due to the lack and/or quality of male role models.
I was disappointed in myself for even having to try stuff on rather grab the right size quickly and leave, it just I have noticed that garments seem to be getting smaller especially round the waist.
Posted: Sun May 10, 2009 11:03 am
by lutonlagerlout
A mate of mine said to me (we are both 40) that men arent men anymore
when i was a kid men didn't use deoderant, i was a mascot for *the phoenix* and my dad was goalkeeper.
when we went in after the game the smells, beer, tobacco, and sweat were things that ingrained on my young mind, same with building sites when i started,up at 6 ,start at 7.30 fry up at 10 every day, 15 blokes playing chase the lady(card game that never ends) every lunch time,falling asleep every day in the back of the pick up or van,the fights and drinking every night (well 5 out of 7)
now the young lads come to work with hair gel,smelling like a tarts boudoir,they eat tuna,dont smoke and wont go near a pub.
i suppose its rose tinted spectacles
LLL
Posted: Mon May 11, 2009 10:08 am
by Tony McC
Have you noticed that the decline in manliness coincides with the reduced showing for John Wayne fillums on the telly? Back when I was a lad, there was a John Wayne fillum on at least once a week and that taught a young impressionable boy almost everything he needed to know about being a man (just the squishy biological bits missing).
Bring back the John Wayne fillums and we'll breed a whole generation of real men again!
Posted: Mon May 11, 2009 11:22 am
by Asbury
Now we have 'Friends' on tv, Ross is the gayest man on the box.
I might smack wor lass tonight, (just because I can) then drink more beer.
Posted: Mon May 11, 2009 6:52 pm
by lutonlagerlout
Tony McC wrote:Have you noticed that the decline in manliness coincides with the reduced showing for John Wayne fillums on the telly? Back when I was a lad, there was a John Wayne fillum on at least once a week and that taught a young impressionable boy almost everything he needed to know about being a man (just the squishy biological bits missing).
Bring back the John Wayne fillums and we'll breed a whole generation of real men again!
made me chuckle ,i say fillum and mrs lout goes mental,"its film,you ****" she cries
i also say "chimbley" for chimney,no idea why?
LLL :laugh:
Posted: Mon May 11, 2009 7:01 pm
by henpecked
lutonlagerlout wrote:Tony McC wrote:Have you noticed that the decline in manliness coincides with the reduced showing for John Wayne fillums on the telly? Back when I was a lad, there was a John Wayne fillum on at least once a week and that taught a young impressionable boy almost everything he needed to know about being a man (just the squishy biological bits missing).
Bring back the John Wayne fillums and we'll breed a whole generation of real men again!
made me chuckle ,i say fillum and mrs lout goes mental,"its film,you ****" she cries
i also say "chimbley" for chimney,no idea why?
LLL :laugh:
I was 23 before someone pointed out I said fillum, everyone must have been too polite to point it out to me before.
Came as a shock too!
HP
Posted: Wed May 13, 2009 11:10 pm
by Suggers
Work with a chippie from time to time who always says heighth - as in breadth, width, length & heighth - dunno if it's a Bucks thing?
Posted: Wed May 13, 2009 11:36 pm
by bodgeitandscarper
I would recommend Shake Hands with the Devil (Rwandan Genocide) written by Lieutenant-General Roméo Dallaire.
This book is excellent. Its regarding the failure of the UN mission in Rwanda and the commander Lieutenant-General Roméo Dallaire who had to try to keep the tutsis and hutu apart with limited staff and resources.
As you already know or guess all hell kicks off and Mr Dallaire found himself in some f&*ked up situations.
Amazing book
Posted: Thu May 14, 2009 7:52 am
by lutonlagerlout
i was going to say have you finished colouring it in yet bodge?,but that would be petty.
quite surprised a the literary breadth of the posters on here
LLL