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Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 11:20 pm
by hillandtrail
I have recently had to register for Vat and I'm not having nearly as many quotes accepted. I would be interested to know what other landscape companies are charging for an experienced hard landscaper. Most of my customers are domestic and I work out my quotes at a rate of £208+vat for an 8 hour day.
Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 12:46 am
by lutonlagerlout
£208 +vat is a lot when there are lads who will work for 80 a shift in the bin
not really sure what you mean by this,but its hard to say to someone you want effectively £250 a day unless there is a good reason for it
better to build your costs into the price ,rather than state a day rate
LLL
Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 8:23 am
by hillandtrail
£208 is what I base my quotes on, this includes all my overheads,tax,ni,depreciation,loans,tools,insurance etc. I give a separate price for materials/waste disposal. I suppose everyone works out there quotes slightly differently, I work out how long the job will take then apply my daily labour rate.
I would be interested to know how anyone else works out their quotes.
Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 9:21 am
by Artisan
£26 per hour (+VAT) seems a bit high for domestic work, depending upon where are you based and how specialist your work is? SPONS works out a landscapers rate to be £18 per hour, which seems to be about right, in the end, you can only charge what the market will pay, if your quotes aren't being taken, chances are you are either charging too much or your marketing isn't right. There again it could be just the credit crunch...
Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 3:46 pm
by slickboy
The price you charge is market driven. ie if you are charging £30 per hour and are busy, fair enough. But if you are charging £208 plus VAT a day and are runniing out of work then it's time to charge something more realistic I'm afraid.
Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 5:14 pm
by Rich H
I'm using £170+VAT per day, up from 160 at the beginning of the year. I've been VAT reg for 4 years and it hasn't impacted me (except for all the extra sodding paperwork).
My quotes are always for a fixed-price lump sum - why separate labour and materials, etc.? They customer still has to pay it all anyway.
The only people I know who quote the labour and materials separately for domestic jobs are those who get the customers to buy the materials directly, and do so to try to stay below the VAT threshold.
Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 7:00 pm
by ambient
we get £200 a day plus vat for 3 ton digger and driver
Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 10:38 am
by hillandtrail
I may have to take a look at my prices.
I have always given a separate price for materials and labour.
I think it is good for a customer to see a breakdown of how much you are actually charging for a job. There are a lot of people who don't appreciate how much you have to pay for materials and waste disposal. I thought the majority of trades quoted like this.
Interesting to see what other people charge, thanks.
Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 11:09 am
by James.Q
we only ever do a total price for works. but we do charge day work on any extras plus materials 
Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 8:50 pm
by Dave_L
I quote LSP's - there is no point at all splitting it down.
Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 8:51 pm
by Dave_L
ambient wrote:we get £200 a day plus vat for 3 ton digger and driver
Aslong as the driver is tidy, accurate and productive, that's a good price - bordering on cheap.
Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 9:09 pm
by James.Q
dave not in our neck of the woods the price is about average 
Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 11:35 pm
by lutonlagerlout
decent semiskilled labourer round here is about £100 a day before tax and a skilled man i.e. bricklayer or slab layer around £200-250 before tax but i would rather quote it as a whole job or me the labourer and the apprentice at £400 a day ,it doesnt seem so savage then
LLL
Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 8:31 pm
by Artisan
Dave_L wrote:I quote LSP's - there is no point at all splitting it down.
LSP's Dave? 
Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 9:35 pm
by Dave_L
Lump Sum Prices