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Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 7:19 pm
by lutonlagerlout
i planted this black locust tree in my garden about 4 years ago,anyway i have been shocked at how quickly it has grown and how vital its been ,till now
there are hardly any leaves and the bare branches seem to be dead
can any of you tree/garden type fellas point me in the right direction,is it dying?
can it be cured
i would hate to lose it but if it is diseased i would rather get rid and get something else
thanks in advance
LLL 
Edited By lutonlagerlout on 1210962135
Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 7:45 pm
by Dave_L
There's only one option, Tone......
Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 10:54 pm
by Rich H
Do you have these:
A locust borer.
Larvae tunnel in trunk and larger branches of live trees. Most damaging on younger trees during dry seasons. They attack healthy young trees boring into the heart and sapwood of stems and branches. Young larvae feeding in the spring cause bleeding at the site of the injury. Wet spots are present on the bark.
More info here:
Boring insects
Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 11:50 pm
by lutonlagerlout
cant see anything obviously wrong apart from hardly any leaves,which is not a good sign
thanks for your input dave 
LLL :;):
Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 7:33 am
by Dave_L
lutonlagerlout wrote:thanks for your input dave
No problem Tony, always a pleasure!
Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 8:37 am
by yourgardenworks.co.uk
Pests and Potential Problems There are 2 primary insects inflicting damage on black locust: locust leaf miner and black locust borer. The leaf miner attacks the tree in spring, turning the leaves brown by mid-summer or early fall. Overall tree growth is impacted, but not seriously. The larvae of the locust borer carve tunnels through the trunk of the tree, weakening it enough for wind breakage. Planting on good quality sites or in conjunction with other hardwood species and shading trunks will discourage infestation by locust borers. Heart rot is the only noteworthy disease effecting black locust.
and also
Common diseases are heart rot and witches' broom disease, caused by a virus, Chlorogenus robiniae. In the southern Appalachians most large trees are infected with heart rot and decay of trunk wood is extensive. In the Texas root-rot belt, black locust is extremely susceptible to Phymatotrichum omnivorum (21). In New Brunswick, plantings of black locust are not recommended because of high mortality and dieback of branches caused by Nectria cinnabarina and because of superior performance by conifer species (40).
Although black locust is moderately frost hardy in the southern and central Plains, cold weather damage has occurred in the colder parts of its range (37). In the Appalachian region, it is highly susceptible to frost damage
Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 9:50 am
by xpuser
Simple way to see if its dead, cut a bit of the bark, if green underneth its alive if brown its dead, cut off all dead, it there is some green, it may save, feed, mulch and water
if the bark is peeling its dead'
From the pic i would say its dying
Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 10:25 am
by Dave_L
xpuser wrote:From the pic i would say its dying
I'll start me chainsaw up!
Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 5:31 pm
by lutonlagerlout
Dave_L wrote:xpuser wrote:From the pic i would say its dying
I'll start me chainsaw up!
dave that tree is like a brother to me
never argues, always listens,always there for me
if i do have to cut it i will make myself a baseball bat from its trunk
for special occasions dave......
LOL
LLL
any cure for this miner thing?
Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 6:06 pm
by Iain
I wouldn't panic mine looks the same this year. They never get fully into leaf until june anyway. They're not keen on strong winds so this may have caused a bit of die back. Leave well alone, go and have a chat to it so it don't get lonley, explore your hippy self and then in mid june prune away any dead branches or any that are crossing. You and your tree will have binded and all will be right in the world.
Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 7:00 pm
by lutonlagerlout
thanks iain,a voice of reason in a sea of madness
maybe its the wet spring we have had?
but some branches do look dead
i still got the rowan ,red maple,himalayan birch and the 20M scots pine for a chat
treehugger that i am
LLL
let me know how yours fares
cheers
Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 9:13 am
by haggistini
A picture say's a thousand words and the glass of red wine on the table in front of the maniac with chain saw says RUN KEEP RUNNING DONT LOOK BACK!
Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 1:05 pm
by lutonlagerlout
haggistini wrote:A picture say's a thousand words and the glass of red wine on the table in front of the maniac with chain saw says RUN KEEP RUNNING DONT LOOK BACK!
lol i reckon thats 2 stroke dave is drinking
LLL
