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Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 8:48 pm
by lutonlagerlout
after doing a yorkstone crazy paving patio 2 years ago at home,i have now decided that i hate crazy paving and ripped it up
i have dug down 300mm (which i should of done in the first place instead of going over the old concrete)
so now to the point of my rambles
i have no problem at all with other peoples patios design etc.
but i just seem to be drawing a blank on my own
anyone got any ideas for something a bit different,oddball even
i am just sick to the eye teeth of indian sandstone.
any advice or comments appreciated
i will just do the drains and MOT for now and leave the flags till the bar is built
cheers LLL 
Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 10:12 pm
by bobhughes
I like Stonemarkets stuff. I got hexagons on my patio but truestone and millstone look great.
You also need lots of plant pots.
Bob
Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 11:32 pm
by lutonlagerlout
after much consideration ( a lot of it financial) mrs. lagerlout has agreed to pay for the flags if i lay them
we have decided to go for global stone's modak rose sandstone
anyone any experience of global stones products,i noticed the flags are a funny size but it is encouraging that there is only 13.6 m in a patio pack ,i saw some the other day with 18m per patio pack in the same size crate
i know its still injun stone but at least its pinkish (to go with my hair extensions)
i will post b4 and afters for your perusal
cheers for the advice
LLL
Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 3:22 pm
by mouldmaker
Ted wrote:Whilst pondering you shoud fork out £20 or so and get this book... (Concrete in the Home, by Fu-Tung Cheng)
Amazon have it from £8.95 - I just bought a copy, thanks for the tip.
Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 4:00 pm
by Tony McC
Global Stone are one of the better importers and supply all the members of a buying group based in Lower Britain. Wodjer mean by "funny sizes"? They're a 140mm module, IIRC.
Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 6:32 pm
by lutonlagerlout
being a 2 bob bricklayer by trade i am more used to 75mm mods,so 300 450 600 900 always seems more rational to me,or foot 18 inches,2 foot and a yard
i have used the other modules before but the 140mm doesnt seem to have any rhyme or reason
can anyone enlighten me?
btw got my first 5 tins of terrace today (used rompox b4 due to a technical error==> i just asked for 5 tins of romex doh!"
anyway they are giving that away at nearly £30 a tin,but i notice they are knocking it up in a plasterers bucket
can i use a clean cement mixer?
also can anyone recommend any nice colour sands to use
the block paving sand down here is that dirty yellow colour
anyway tomorrow is the big day(luton getting relegated) so will fire the flags in and worry about the joints after
cheers LLL
Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 11:50 am
by Tony McC
140 - 280 - 420 - 560 - 700 - 840 - 1120
Much of the imported sandstone comes in these sizes for stupid reasons that hark back to olde worlde imperial measurements. About three-quarters of the patio design work I do use these sizes rather than the 150mm modular sizes.
Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 10:08 pm
by Stuarty
good work, the flags do look very attractive from the photo.
Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 7:28 am
by seanandruby
i went to put my bet on, and 4 horses for 'er indoors. i had the usual yankee. but the woman behind the jump mistakenly done the supposed e w bets as 4 £4 wins on the national. so it went from a £4 bet to £16. so ended up having four win bets in the same race. if that wasn't bad enough there was someone else's bet with my slips that cost an extra £10. so instead of laying out £10.50 it came to £31 summink. after all that i only had one winner with my yankee. because my wife had a bad back i had to do some shopping to... couldn't get the quid in the shop trolley ( a young lad done it for me, )and, bought most of the wrong stuff. when i got home the wife craicked up and told me i cant go out on my own again... too dangerous :p :p :p
Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 10:45 am
by lutonlagerlout
i use www.betfair.com and www.bluesquare.com,better odds and no queues
LLL
Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 6:15 pm
by Tony McC
If you stack flags like that on one of my jobs, you get yer arse kicked! It only needs one of the kids to lean against that single upright support and the whole stack collapses on top of them.
Back when I was a youngster, only 5 or 6 years old, a little girl of just three years was crushed to death in such an accident on a site where my Dad was working. It was another flagging gang, but they were working on the opposite side of the road to my Dad's gang (this was the 1960s when new housing estates had all the public footpaths flagged with 3x2s).
One evening after finishing time, the little girl and her pals were playing hide'n'seek and she must have thought it would be a good idea to duck down and hide behind the on-edge support flag that was holding up 20 or so 3x2s. The thinking was that she'd nudged the flag in some way, and the whole stack fell back onto her, crushing her in the process.
As you can imagine, it shook up my dad and his gang, and the ganger responsible for the gang-across-the-road was prosecuted. Ever since then, my Dad had a policy of not allowing flags to be stacked in that way on any of his jobs, and it's a policy I carried on when I started running my own gangs.
Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 7:54 pm
by lutonlagerlout
fair point,but its the way i was told to do it from the age of 14
exactly how would you stack them then??
LLL ???
Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 8:53 pm
by Stuarty
We done half a dozen jobs for a client who renovates houses and old buildings and he insists that we do not stack them as posted above.
We had to stack them flat on the ground, turning every other slab so you could grab the corners, unless we were next to a wall, id stack them against that.
You cant stack many riven slabs from the ground up though, very unstable.
