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Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 10:19 pm
by Chris 7
Hi, can anyone please offer any guidance or assistance with the following?
I am looking to build / have built a Brick Fireplace and Chimney in the garden.
The grate will be 36" wide and therefore am looking at a 4 foot opening.
I am not sure of the internal construction of the brickwork to support the liner & stack which I feel will need to be around 10 Feet high to facilitate draw.
Is there a plan available for the internal brickwork construction?
(Do I need to go higher than 10 feet)? is there a calculation for the opening volume V's chimney height to ensure draw is achieved?
In addition I require the chimney to be twisted. I am told there is a template for this? Where can I get one and how is the twisted effect done.
I am not a builder as you may have guessed by now, just enthusiastic to have a go!!! Or,
Does anyone out there carry out this type of work?
Thanks for reading.
Chris
Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 12:00 am
by lutonlagerlout
your on the wrong site mate
this is pavingexpert.com
but as i build as well ,i will give you a tip
if you have never laid bricks before get a brickie in,it takes 4000 hrs of practise to lay bricks to a standard,i have never seen a diyer do a half decent job yet
the twisted effect i have done many times but again it is advanced brickwork,you will not be able to do it mate.sorry
as for the chimney normally it as to be 600mm above the nearest roofline,but the main thing is ,it has a draw i.e. the smoke gets sucked up it
hope this helps
tony 
Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 7:52 am
by carlbeardsmore
Im no bricky but this is what I have just built. I don't agree with the 4000hrs practice. Have a go and just take your time.
Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 1:07 pm
by Chris 7
Thanks for thae reply. (Both of you).
Carl, you seem to have done an excellent job and you say you aren't a brickie !
Well, I agree with you, that blows the 4,000 hours practice theory out of the water.
The job looks better than some of the buildings I have seen erected on some new build sites which are constructed by brickies.
Well done !
However, does anyone out there know wher I can get a template as requested for the twisted brick.
I will be able to do it, maybe not as fast !
Thanks !
Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 4:39 pm
by andpartington
carl
very nice job!! wish i was as good
what are the joints on the gable wall where u have not pointed them for (am i just being dense?)
have u by chance used the bricky thing of the tv
andy
Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 6:06 pm
by Dave_L
Nice job!!
The "joints" are ventilation slots aren't they?
Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 6:21 pm
by Stuarty
Carl you did quite a job there. But some people have the knack to put up brickwork, others just dont unfortunatly, but good luck anyway
Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 6:51 pm
by Suggers
Surely they're the pudlock holes from the scaff - is there a prize involved?
Ooops - Dave's joke just whizzed over me 'ead - red face etc.....
Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 10:07 pm
by lutonlagerlout
carl very nice bit of bwk,but i would guess you have been on the building all your working???
i know roofers and plasterers that can lay bricks ,but i am talking about a desk jockey starting from scratch
the 4000 hrs is roughly the amount of practise an apprentice gets in 4 years,i have started flint knapping lately and having been in the buildings for 20 years obviously helps
right spiral piers
concrete an 8 ft scaffold tube in vertically at the centre of the chimney
cut a peice of ply 450 by 450 dead square
cut a 50mm hole in the centre of the ply
place the ply over the scaff tube and use as your profile moving it approx 10mm at a time for a nice spiral effect
i will post a picture of some spiral piers i have doen recently tommorrow
cheers fellas
tony
Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 10:20 pm
by Chris 7
Thanks for the tip with the template.
Look forward to seeing the the pictures of the work you have done with the twisted brick.
Thanks.
Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 11:37 pm
by carlbeardsmore
Suggers wins the prize.
The holes have now been pointed.
Also, I am a desk jockey , started from scratch. I am a television engineer by trade and I built the garage on my own in my spare time. The only thing that I used that a proper bricke may not were building profiles at the four corners. I guess these would not help build a twisted chimney though.
Chris7 , Hope you will show us a picture of the fininshed chimney.
Cheers Carl
Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 6:53 pm
by lutonlagerlout
just out of interest carl how long did it take you??
i would estimate it as about 6 days work for my gang (2 brickies 1 hoddy) but regardless of time you have done a blinding job
oh yes spirals
here thay are
and no i wasnt drunk lol
tony
Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 8:44 pm
by Stuarty
very nice Tony. Only seen a few of these done and even fewer looked good. Nice work.
Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 11:04 pm
by carlbeardsmore
I started my 40 square meter garage in Febuary. I work full time so some weeks I have done notthing on the garage at all. Also , when I said i did everything my self, I knocked up all the mortar, moved all the bricks and blocks my self and even built my own scafolding.
I can now lay about 400 facing bricks in a day , but again, being my own labourer slows me down. I could only do about 200 when I first started. I would like to use a labourer and see how many I could lay in a day.
One day the wife helped get the mix from the mixer to my spot. I could then lay so much faster she could not keep up.
Practice does make you get quicker but at the start , I was paranoid about geting each brick perfect. I can now do it without thinking.
I still have a lot to learn, but due to there being a current redundence cull at work, I was thinking about becoming a builder beacause the televiosn game is dying with cheap TV's
I was worried about the building control at the start, but as long as I did my research and kept everything within regs, each inspection so far as been a doddle.
Hope that continues.....
:;):
Cheers Carl