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Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2005 3:13 pm
by Susan
Just wondering what the going rate is outside of london for general landscape staff. We dont want to pay minimum wage but dont want to go too high either. So what do you all pay for 1. Skilled or semi skilled, able to pave, fence, build walls, steps etc and 2 unskilled labouring
Thanks!
Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2005 4:30 pm
by rms
Unskilled £80 per day. Skilled £120+ per day.
Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2006 12:40 pm
by Tony McC
You can get genuinely unskilled labourers for as little as 50 quid per day, but they will need constant supervision for even the simplest of tasks. Good "Donkeys", capable of working on their own digging off, stoning up, etc., will need carrots to the tune of around 80-90 quid per day. A semi-skilled bod capable of wall-building, fencing, a bit of flagging or block-laying and that sort of thing will command at least 100 quid per day, up to 150 quid for a really competent operative capable of supervising others.
These are the typical rates uncovered anywhere north of Northampton, west of Swindon. Scotland and Norn Iron are slightly cheaper, RoI roughly the same as England except in Euros, Dublin rates are about the same as London, again in Euros.
Posted: Sat May 06, 2006 2:18 pm
by brickstermike
Labourers capable of digging, stoning, concreting etc. on their own are paid as little as £6 an hour here in Hampshire
Posted: Sat May 06, 2006 5:12 pm
by Stuarty
Here in Edinburgh and Lothians, i know of one company that pays foremen £8.50 an hour, firm i work for, chargehand on decking/fencing squad is on £7.50, chargehand on hard landscaping is on £6.25, chargehand on the grounds maintainance is on £6.50. I wont mention what im on 
but im not a chargehand of anysort
Posted: Thu May 11, 2006 2:33 pm
by jones2004
Around North Wales the wage for Hard Landscapers is 6.50 ph max. Groundworkers are on 8-10 pounds ph.
Posted: Sat May 13, 2006 9:19 pm
by rms
That's not enough to live on!
Posted: Sat May 13, 2006 9:23 pm
by Stuarty
im able to put up a fence, do bit of hard landscaping, slabbing, walling, drainage and the likes not the most experienced but enough to do a good job i feel, spose the age doesnt help much but i do it all for 4.50 ph! Is it any wonder i done 16 hours overtime last week heh
Posted: Mon May 15, 2006 8:57 am
by mouldmaker
£4.50 an hour?
You do know what the minimum wage is, I hope...?
Posted: Mon May 15, 2006 6:54 pm
by Stuarty
aye, unfortunatly theres 3 bands for the min. wage, 4.25 for my band, 18 - 21, 5.05 for 22 upwards
Posted: Sat May 20, 2006 1:38 pm
by brickstermike
For a young adult operative the minimum wage set by BATJIC as of June 12 2006 for an 18 year old is £7.12 an hour even for a trainee of that age is £6.84 an hour.
Posted: Sat May 20, 2006 5:27 pm
by Tony McC
For those that don't know, and that's quite a lot of contractors and operatives in the residential driveway/patio business, BATJIC is the Building and Allied Trades Joint Industrial Council, a sort of advisory body for the wider construction industry.
Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 10:37 pm
by Dave_L
What an interesting read! :p
Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 8:54 pm
by dickon
dear tony as a landscaper myself ihave to ask if ishould be paying my lads up to 150 a day what should i be charging for their labour - 200 at least but will people pay this?not in my experience-what is going rate?
Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 9:51 pm
by Dave_L
dickon wrote:dear tony as a landscaper myself ihave to ask if ishould be paying my lads up to 150 a day what should i be charging for their labour - 200 at least but will people pay this?not in my experience-what is going rate?
On an employed or self employed basis?