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Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2015 2:41 pm
by Dave_L
On a particular site we work at, some of our work is classed as "Working at height"
This is because we are working on footpaths where the footpath is 125mm higher than the roadway. Crazy or what??
The RAMS has to address this 'situation'
It's beyond ridiculous....but all the faffing around is factored into the price, which is a godsend.
Anyone else got anything better??
Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2015 5:50 pm
by dig dug dan
I heard about some guys at heathrow, working inside the terminal at night had to angle grind off 1 bolt, but couldnt until they obtained a "hot work permit"!
Half the trouble is the people who pander to such nonsense
Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2015 6:45 pm
by seanandruby
That's the way it is now like lifting weights it is what you are comfortable with, could be a feather or a ton. I have waited a week sometimes at Heathrow to get the permits i need for different things
We had a dig open once to install a manhole, the safety guys stopped me because weren't sure the batter was good enough took nearly 2 months to get the go ahead after we shaved off another few
ml ??? Installing a new run to existing manhole i had to have my photo taken at the start of every shift 
I could go on and on
Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2015 8:46 am
by Dave_L
In many places we work, you HAVE to pander to this sort of nonsense otherwise we can't work there.....you'd be chucked off site. Where we primarily work the staff have a "Challenge Health & Safety" regime hammered into them - if they see us doing something they THINK is unsafe, they come over and challenge us, even though they have no idea of what we are doing. It gets on your tits after a while..........
It's the hard hats that we have to wear despite nobody else working around us and no dangers from anything falling that gets me!
Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2015 9:01 am
by seanandruby
When you have H&S drummed into you it becomes part of you Dave. We are in danger of losing our jobs, therefore our way of life, mortgages/rent etc; don't get paid and your out on your arse. Some guys do overdo it and it can be annoying but best to just conform for an easy life m8 :;):
Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2015 9:06 am
by Dave_L
Stupid things like your hard hats cannot have vents in the top is another one!!! I had to bin mine and get a solid topped one!
Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2015 9:18 am
by seanandruby
But are you otherwise making money ???
Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2015 9:48 am
by lutonlagerlout
dave I remember the hullabaloo that came when hardhats became mandatory in the 80s
the site manager said there were exemptions
all you had to do was have a house brick dropped on your head from 20 M up
if it didnt hurt, you didnt have to wear a hard hat
same with toilets,blokes used to pee and worse all over
now everyone is used to portaloos
enjoy florida mate turn your work off for a while
LLL
Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2015 1:08 pm
by seanandruby
Remember the days well of cement bag shit parcels. In those days houses in being built smelt strongly of piss etc:
We fought for welfare rights in the early days for improvements on building sites.
Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2015 1:18 pm
by dig dug dan
seanandruby wrote:Remember the days well of cement bag shit parcels. In those days houses in being built smelt strongly of piss etc:
We fought for welfare rights in the early days for improvements on building sites.
I see the portaloos all over the place, but who enforces the rule that you have to have them?
Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2015 1:35 pm
by seanandruby
HSE. depending on how many people on site determines the amount of facilities..minimum of one toilet and one urinal one wash basin.
Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2015 4:26 pm
by Dave_L
lutonlagerlout wrote:enjoy florida mate turn your work off for a while
Certainly will Tone, it all starts Wednesday
Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2015 4:27 pm
by Dave_L
seanandruby wrote:But are you otherwise making money ???
Yes.....and going home safe at the end of the day. Nothing is more important than that.
Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2015 6:10 pm
by seanandruby
...well good, just wear the hat it's no biggy really.
Maybe put a scaffold up for the kerb
:laugh:
Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2015 6:32 pm
by dig dug dan
seanandruby wrote:HSE. depending on how many people on site determines the amount of facilities..minimum of one toilet and one urinal one wash basin.
Not so sure. They were not interested to hear about a hired micro digger that was missing its rollbar. Their response was " we will investigate if there is an accident"