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Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2014 8:14 pm
by sy76uk
Anyone ever put one down?

The lady that wants me to install it says that the hot tub manufacturer has told her that a standard patio would hold it.

I'm not so sure. It's 2.1x2.1m and I'm guessing 400-500 deep so there's a lot of weight.

If it were me I'd put it down on a concrete slab but she doesn't like the idea just in case she ever decides to move and she's stuck with the slab.

Any suggestions?

Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2014 8:26 pm
by GB_Groundworks
we built one in to a patio, put it on 100mm reinforced concrete slab

http://www.gbgroundworks.com/recent/ingelnook/index.html

Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 5:29 am
by sy76uk
I was thinking a 100mm reinforced concrete slab would be the best way to go.

I'll see what she says when I speak to her tonight.

Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 6:10 pm
by r896neo
Definatley go for the concrete slab, it needs to be very flat to stop deflection and potential damage to the base of the tub.

I doubt they would be so easy going about it going on a standard patio if it started leaking and they had a warranty claim

Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 8:05 pm
by KLS
Why not lay the base 50-75mm or so below the finish of the patio then if she gets rid of it slabs can be laid straight over the top of the concrete.

Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 8:17 pm
by sy76uk
Thanks for the replies. I spoke to the clients about installation and they said that the hot tub supplier told them that a 100mm compacted hardcore sub base, 50mm sand cement screed and 50mm grey slab would be fine. They also wanted a row of saga black sawn 2x2' slabs surrounding it.

I put in a price of £820 for an area just under 10m2 and got undercut by £200.

I think they thought they'd be getting the base done for pennies before they looked into it.
I couldn't do a proper job and make it pay for £600. The materials and waste come in at £430.

Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 8:26 pm
by GB_Groundworks
Never buy work, your price is your price unless the specification changes stick to your price

Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 9:01 pm
by sy76uk
I agree completely Giles. I've learned my lesson as far as competing on price is concerned. I won't do it. I'll only compete on quality.

I know I'm not the best paver in the world but I also know that I do a proper job to the best of my ability and my work is better than 99% of the work that I see whilst out and about.

The bloke doing the work might do a good job of it but at that price I can't se him making much from it.
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Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 9:36 pm
by lutonlagerlout
almost certainly he wont sy

Giles is correct,my old fella used to like to keep us all busy working for eff all

my motto is don't be a busy fool

like you both I aim to do things correctly 100% of the time

this involves paying the right price for quality material and paying men a living wage

plus of course some profit

I have been undercut on loads of jobs but inevitably they come back very sheepish with a "can you put it right" face

in the last 10 years I have concentrated my efforts on the spenders and they in turn recommend you to other spenders

now a lot of the time we just get asked to do work without quoting which shows a level of trust

cheers LLL

Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 9:41 pm
by sy76uk
Where's the like icon :)

Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2014 11:32 pm
by rab1
as all have said, your price is your price... never buy work or fall into the trap of do this one at cost and we'll give you this job etc