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Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2014 3:43 pm
by DempseyLiverpool
I've got a fair bit of re-pointing to do on victorian property ( hand made brick garden boundary walls) as part of paving job. Can anyone recommend a lime mortar mix I could use as don't want to use sand/cement.

Cheers

Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2014 3:50 pm
by lutonlagerlout
you could use easipoint historic lime mortar as it contains no portland cement
about 25 quid a bag though which does about 5 M2 depending on depth and width and bond

hydrated lime wont set all all with no cement so is out

the one you need to knock it up with is hydraulic lime
1 lime: 4 building sand: 2 plastering sand

this is to mimic the old mortar as the old stuff used to be coarser

try a couple of test panels

but for me personally i would use easipoint as you can be 100% sure of colour uniformity
LLL

Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2014 4:16 pm
by DempseyLiverpool
Cheers LLL

Got roughly 100sq metres so easipont gonna be a bit expensive.

My LBM has Hanson Hydraulic Lime 3.5. Will this be ok as I know there is a grade 2 and 5 also ?

Do I place and strike the same as sand/cement ?

Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2014 5:39 pm
by lutonlagerlout
like i say the best way is to experiment
I think the higher grade may be for underwater
you will find it a lot creamier than normal muck
think last time i did that sort of area we charged about £35 p/m
rake out and repoint
weatherstruck
cheers LLL

Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2014 7:17 pm
by DempseyLiverpool
Ok thanks for the info LLL

Much appreciated :)

Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 8:39 pm
by dodger41
lutonlagerlout wrote:like i say the best way is to experiment
I think the higher grade may be for underwater
you will find it a lot creamier than normal muck
think last time i did that sort of area we charged about £35 p/m
rake out and repoint
weatherstruck
cheers LLL

Might have a job of re--pointing with lime muck & a weather struck joint, on an Hotel......, as a guide, how many Sq m would you expect to rake out and point in a day (Flemish bond), at a steady pace ?, cheers.

Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 9:18 pm
by sy76uk
I've just finished a job where the lads were re pointing using lime render. The mix they were using was similar to the one LLL posted. They were using 3 yellow plastering sand 2 orange sharp sand and 1 lime. The colour was really nice. Kind of a light peach. They also ceated a bit and stuck 1 white cement in there for strength.

Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 9:49 pm
by lutonlagerlout
about 8-12 metres a day per man
very weather dependant
thing is if you have more than one man on it everyone has to be onside with the strike and the profile of the angle IYKWIM

so all joints are either 10mm or 12mm for uniformity
cheers LLL

Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 5:22 pm
by dodger41
lutonlagerlout wrote:about 8-12 metres a day per man
very weather dependant
thing is if you have more than one man on it everyone has to be onside with the strike and the profile of the angle IYKWIM

so all joints are either 10mm or 12mm for uniformity
cheers LLL
It would be a nice little job with a bit of sun on youre back, but that doesn't seem that its going to happen any time soon !, cheers.

Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 5:47 pm
by lutonlagerlout
defo one for the summer with a radio and a little bit of that yellow thing I keep hearing about
LLL

Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 8:18 pm
by John156
A mate has asked us to re- point the side of his house. All the info here is helpful so cheers. What do people use to rake out? I'm thinking if the existing joint is weak it should come out with a hammer and chisel. If not - cutting ? I've seen various bits advertised for raking out.

What do people normally do?

Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 8:47 pm
by sy76uk
I use a grinder but a wire brush drill attachment also works really well and does less damage if you go off onto the face of the brick. Either way is much quicker than a hammer and bolster. Less arm ache too.

Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 10:10 pm
by lutonlagerlout
to me brickwork should not be repointed unless a front door key can rake out the mortar

i have used the 4 inch diamond raking blades and they are fast but you need a steady hand

the old way is a club hammer and plugging chisel

LLL