The Brew Cabin

Posted: **Sat Jul 07, 2012 12:56 pm**

Hello,

I'm getting to the end of designing my indian stone patio, and I am now after advice on creating a 5inch high x 6 feet wide (patio doors) x 3 feet deep step.

As I''m starting from a "blank sheet", is it best to lay the patio 1st (using sub-base etc taken from this site) then build the step on top of that using a 1 grey engineering brick for the perimeter which is then filled with C20 concrete, then topped with 3 (2ft x 3ft) stone flags

or, 1st build a 2 brick high perimeter wall sat on its own strip foundation, fill this with concrete and then flag on top, then build the rest of the patio around that

or, create an 8inch former and fill it with C20 concrete.

Once it is dry, top with 3 flags and face it with flag pieces to mask the concrete (bit like stone cladding) then build the rest of the patio around that.

Thanks

Posted: **Sat Jul 07, 2012 1:11 pm**

Chrissy

Sounds like you have been doing your homework. You should really put your bricks in before you build your patio. I dont think it matters either way if you face the brickwork before or after the patio is laid, but if you face it first it might save you time on cutting as you can face with full sized pieces of either 600x300 or 560x275

Steve

Posted: **Sat Jul 07, 2012 1:43 pm**

For a single step that height, i would build it on the patio. As per your first suggestion.

Posted: **Sat Jul 07, 2012 3:51 pm**

less aggro to use nice bricks and just point them
personally i dont like to see flags on vertical faces
I have seen it done and I am not keen
for 1 step it would be ok to lay the patio first then carefully lay your bricks where you need them
LLL

Posted: **Sat Jul 07, 2012 4:12 pm**

Thanks for all the advice

I think I will go with my 1st option.......lay the patio 1st, then add a 1 brick high step at the end

ONCE IT HAS STOPPED EFFING RAINING

Posted: **Sun Jul 08, 2012 12:18 am**

its not rain
its liquid sunshine
LLL

Posted: **Thu Jul 12, 2012 10:10 am**

I never like building on the patio because I normally border my patios with a brick and this always looks like an afterthought as border should continue around step. But if you have no border then I don't see any reason why you can't do it this way.

The Brew Cabin

Creating patio step