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Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 4:10 pm
by henpecked
Hi fellas,
Im just in the process of buying in BG. The place is a 3 bed with huge 'Donkey Paddock' in the yard. This would make a great place for a pool ! 
Anyone got tips on building such? The concrete is about £30 a cube there. Re-enforcing £10 a sheet ,so materials are not too dear.
Would a C25 or 30 be a good mix.? Also, is there an admix for the concrete or would the tiling carry most of the work.
Its going to be drained in October and the winters are generally 'white' till the end of jan. Might cover it over, might not, not decided just yet.
Just wanted any tips if you have any.
Obviously BC guys will get BC rates if they fancy a bit of hunting,shooting and fishing + Effes @50p a pint :laugh: :laugh:
All the best
HP
Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 5:35 pm
by lutonlagerlout
worked on pools in spain and the main issue i remember is that if they leak its a pain to sort it
muck away was a big cost even then
is there a local reputable firm or are you planning to do it yourself?
LLL
Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 7:02 pm
by henpecked
lutonlagerlout wrote:worked on pools in spain and the main issue i remember is that if they leak its a pain to sort it
muck away was a big cost even then
is there a local reputable firm or are you planning to do it yourself?
LLL
~Well....er.....yes
It too dodgy to hire in BG,the quality of workmanship varies too much. I'd be better to do it meself and save 60%.
Was going for 150mm walls and base, theres a tendency to have tremors in BG. So will try to make it as 'solid' as can be,but I wont be worrying too much if the house has gone over too :laugh: :laugh:
Did look at a method where they built then lined with Mepolastic water proofing membrane then mosaics. Might help with movement.
Just wanted a few ideas on shuttering methods over large areas. Rather than shuttering the whole lot, would it be better to shutter the main area, than break it down for the side walls?
Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 7:45 pm
by Thehandmadegarden
Have you thought about a natural swimming pool? These would work well in the continental climate in Bulgaria. A lot less maintenance than traditional pools. Some companies offer these in a kit form. These are just a couple I know offer kits:
http://www.naturalswimmingpools.com/
http://www.clear-water-revival.com/
I can offer further advice If you choose to go this route
Clive
www.thehandmadegarden.com
Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 7:59 pm
by mickavalon
I build Natural swimming Pools for Clear Water mate, we line them with Firetsone Rubber liner. There very popular on the continent, and once installed, you have no chemicals to add, just keeping it clean, and you can heat them to 28, if you wish, but they do gain solar heat from the use of the Black liner
Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 8:06 pm
by henpecked
Hi Clive,
Like the 'natural water' or 'clear water' type.
What do they run at in comparison to a 'proper' pool?
Is it just a liner under it and how do you keep the water filtered, is it just with plants?
Thanks again
HP
Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 8:41 pm
by Thehandmadegarden
I have previously worked for Natural pools, but I'll try not to hold that against them :-/
They are generally more expensive to build, but if you can go the kit route and do most of the work you're self then there are big savings to be made. I dont have any experience of installing 'proper pools' Natural pools can be installed with a tiled finish to look just like a traditional pool, but the natural look looks far better left to look like a pond. The filtration chemistry is quite complex but is cheaper to run than chlorine pools and safer and more pleasant to swim in, just pure drinkable water, with no added chemicals. The filtration is a combination of mechanical and biological filtration. In the basic process the water is passed through a shallow planted area, then drawn down through the growing medium The plants feed off the minerals that would otherwise cause the water to go green and the sun heats up this shallow water. Other filtration is undertaken in a small plant chamber close by. The liner that I have used is called TPO a synthetic butyl product that is welded to shape on site.
Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 8:48 pm
by local patios and driveway
Build it in concrete and tank it with 4 coats of sika tanking compound, Has worked for years. Why do it any other way.
Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 9:13 pm
by henpecked
local patios and driveways wrote:Build it in concrete and tank it with 4 coats of sika tanking compound, Has worked for years. Why do it any other way.
Hi LPD
You mean sika waterproofing compound?
Or
Can you link me to where I can buy/get price for such?
Cheers matey,
HP :;):
Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 9:25 pm
by local patios and driveway
Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 9:29 pm
by henpecked
Tank you very much (did you see what I did there?) :laugh:
Its in the inception stages ATM. Just wanted to sound out and if you guys had any good input. Still haven't greased the Mayors palm yet ,to get on his good side
Its in Elhovo, 1 hour from Burgas, so if you guys fancy it, Wizz air let you carry a spade as hand luggage (only JOKING!) Its 20 mins from the Turk border and just over an hour to a Greek beach.
Cant wait 
Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 9:47 pm
by rab1
we`re packing our speedo`s right now, lol
Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 10:09 pm
by local patios and driveway
Id come over for a week for bed board and brekkie..
Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 10:42 pm
by henpecked
Guys ,its 40c in the summer, but beware the winter! It drops about October till the end of Jan,then it shoots up.
Its about 6 k outside of Elhovo, in a village of 500 people, log burner for heating in the summer, electric for winter.
Guys. Give me a month an I'll know where I am with it.
Woot ! a Brew Cabin bolt hole
Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2012 1:02 pm
by Thehandmadegarden
LPD Both ways have there merit.....and there failings
http://www.pavingexpert.com/