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Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 6:04 pm
by GB_Groundworks
anyone know of any off the shelve brackets to carry 2x 2450x200x60 oak sleepers for a pub garden.
30 linear metres but lots of twists and turns, figure i need 60 odd so trying to resist having them made and powder coated/galvanised
my crude sketch on drawing, or build brickwork pillars for them to sit on and some how bolt into.
heres the plan lots of curves and shaped brickwork with reclaimed style bricks, and rounded corner bricks and slips etc.
bricks i need to sort of match in imperial sizes
Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 7:18 pm
by lutonlagerlout
wouldnt it be a better job to concrete vertical sleepers into the ground and attach the horizontal sleepers to them
on a summers day with a lot of folk sitting on those sleepers the load would be very big
imperial bricks you pay through the nose for giles
some kind of red stock would be your friend here
LLL
Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 8:46 pm
by digerjones
some reclaim yard round this area if you strugle to find a match. are the brackets your after called gallow brackets
Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 9:05 pm
by haggistini
I could get them knocked up for you if you gave me the spec!
Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 10:29 pm
by Pablo
hi Giles I know the drawing is just a guide but I would seriously doubt the brackets ability to stand up to the punishment of a few big lads like ourselves sitting on the edge of the sleepers. I think the torque would rip then out especially because the wall fixings are so close together. I think it needs a T bracket with some diagonal cross bracing on the underside. Shouldn't be to much of a drama to get them fabricated and they're more likely to satisfy insurance and safety requirements.
Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 1:11 am
by GB_Groundworks
so further details emerge that if we get it they need it all doing by the 13th of december so gettin stuff made might be tight.
i think maybe brickwork pillars every 1 metre or so might be the way to go, ideas on attaching the oak apart from drilling and plugging? or rawl bolts?
60mm thick oak should be pretty strong maybe just one in each middle section and maybe angle iron holders on the ends?
weinberger have the the weald red multi
just need to source the double cants or double bull noses in blue maybe
tony how would you go about the steps, just cut them all on site with stihl saw or try and get radius bricks?
i'll post a better pic tomorrow, theyve specified half round bricks for the risers
Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 7:00 am
by lutonlagerlout
i think you would turn those steps giles with mortar joints
those double bullnosed staffs will make your wallet bleed
£3.50 a brick
cheers LLL
Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 7:18 am
by local patios and driveway
Threaded bar from the other side of the wall then bolt the brackets on. No issue of pulling the brackets out of the wall then.
Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 7:28 am
by Pablo
personally I'd decline it if it's to be done by the 13th especially if it's to be paved aswell. You'd need to start it next week and the walls should be up for a few weeks before you hang anything on them. You'll be knocking your pan in on this one to have it ready.
Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 10:18 am
by GB_Groundworks
Being asphalted then resin bonded when weather improves, plan now is to sit the oak benches into brick pillars filled with concrete, maybe 1 metre spans so be 1 metre oak, 4 brick pillar that will be level with oak so be a seat/glass table then 1 metre oak, then pillar etc. be tight but be good to get in with these guys they're buying pubs all over Sheffield to do up. Weekends and nights lol 
fun but works work and I'm a firm believer in not turning work down. Internal pub outfitter has quoted £32k for it, so there definetly money in it. Just working it out at mo, brickworks not my thing though so corners in header bond etc obviously take twice as long? £2.80 for double bullnose in blues tiny from Travis
Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 5:08 pm
by lutonlagerlout
a good brickie can only lay 250 bricks a day on that kind of work giles
its all level work
bear that in mind
LLL