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Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 9:09 pm
by Thepinkpavingco
Does anybody have any experience on using plinth stretchers and returns upside down on top of a 13" pier. Acting as a corbel
Doing this the other day and was very tricky indeed kept falling off ???
Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 9:15 pm
by lutonlagerlout
way too top heavy
who designed this feature?
normally corbels are done with full bricks hanging over 25mm max per brick
you can sometimes use dog tooth or dentil course to add more pizzazz to the pier
to do what you are trying to achieve you would need to shutter the brickwork
but you are defeating the point of the corbel which is to shed water away from the main body of the pier
all the best
LLL
Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 9:29 pm
by Thepinkpavingco
In the fancy area of Essex I live in I have seen this method a hundred times on big fancy piers finally got the call to do it (always fancied trying) but I struggled there must be a method for this I just don't know it. ???
How do i post pics ?
I'll show you my attempt. Thanks for the reply
Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 9:30 pm
by joydivision
You would only manage that using plinth headers.
Fair play for trying, I certainly wouldnt!!!
JD
Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 9:36 pm
by joydivision
Thepinkpavingco wrote:In the fancy area of Essex I live in I have seen this method a hundred times on big fancy piers finally got the call to do it (always fancied trying) but I struggled there must be a method for this I just don't know it. ???
How do i post pics ?
I'll show you my attempt. Thanks for the reply
I think they could actually be specials.
i.e the depth of 2 bricks with the plinth face.
JD
Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 9:40 pm
by Thepinkpavingco
That would be alot easier if they were that wide but they don't seem to make a special for this. How can I show you all don't have a URL for my pics ???
Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 9:56 pm
by joydivision
No idea without a URL. Someone else may be able to help there.
Regarding the plinths, iv no idea, other than proping somehow, interested myself.
You sometimes see a quite a few courses of it as corbelling at the eaves, but thats normaly a brick and a half wide so a full header plinth each course may help there. Still looks tricky though!!
JD
Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 10:17 pm
by Thepinkpavingco
Pic prior to cleaning and was pissing down
: note the wedges of slate underneath and red bricks to hold it all down 
Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 10:53 pm
by lutonlagerlout
wd40 is your friend for cleaning them blue staffs
are you a brickie pink?
on piers especially engineering ones let your eye be the guide
if you plumb them up from 8 points you end up with some fat joints at the top due to the weight of the bricks squeezing the pier wider,just started to happen on your pier there
those cants are a pig to lay TBH someone must have money to burn with all them specials IIRC about £3.50 each
as i said before to do the detail you are trying to achieve you need to shutter it with 3by 2 CLs
bits of slate wont help
cheers and good luck
LLL
Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 10:55 pm
by lutonlagerlout
or another idea
buildyour 2 course of bricks and put your plinths on as normal
but do this on a muck board with dpm on it
when it has gone off the next day carefully lift the 12 bricks in 1 go and turn it upside down and lay on the pier
hard work though
would take 30 minutes to shutter that
LLL
Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 11:26 pm
by Thepinkpavingco
What a bloody good idea I have three more to do I'll build all piers up and build three lots of tops on the deck and put them on at the end of the job. Thanks LLL
Ps I'm not a bricky really just picked it up over the years pavings my main trade that's why I need some advice on me way thanks again.
Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 11:30 pm
by Thepinkpavingco
lutonlagerlout wrote:wd40 is your friend for cleaning them blue staffs
are you a brickie pink?
on piers especially engineering ones let your eye be the guide
if you plumb them up from 8 points you end up with some fat joints at the top due to the weight of the bricks squeezing the pier wider,just started to happen on your pier there
those cants are a pig to lay TBH someone must have money to burn with all them specials IIRC about £3.50 each
as i said before to do the detail you are trying to achieve you need to shutter it with 3by 2 CLs
bits of slate wont help
cheers and good luck
LLL
The return corners are £8 each, I'm on day work thank god!!
Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 9:36 pm
by Thepinkpavingco
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Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 9:51 pm
by Thepinkpavingco
Got there in the end thanks LLL
Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2011 10:06 pm
by joydivision
Very Art Deco there Pink!
Jesus , must be a grand's worth of specials in that job!!!
Nice work!
JD
