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Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2011 12:03 am
by GB_Groundworks
doing a price for a new disabled parking space for nhs job we are on at mo, spec has 150mm long, 12mm steel dowels at 450 centres inserted into the gen 1 concrete then haunched over seems overkill to me, but anyone come across this spec before?

met the chief projector manager today as we are first on site scraping off etc, hes 12 companys higher up than me he deals with the nhs. we were laughing that my 1k price say by the time its gets to him is at like 15k

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Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2011 2:33 am
by lutonlagerlout
i think the dowels are there only if you have a day joint,
I.E. if you lay the kerbs one day and haunch them the next
they serve no purpose if you lay and haunch in 1 go
LLL

Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2011 3:31 am
by Pablo
I occasionally do nhs work making gardens safe for autistic kids cms they're freakin escape artists. Anyway they spec the post holes at 750 square and 750mm deep for a 4 inch post and 6ft fence. Thats bloody crazy I never quote on that and just allow for a 300 Augered hole they Dont check and i would feel unethical if i did anything else. They either love wasting money or they employ idiots who like wasting it for them

Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2011 6:23 am
by msh paving
Dowels in a kerb line are quite common spec. persimmon homes have just done a new road with dowels like that hear in kings lynn,years ago i was on a road job DOT spec was dowels, i was posted on disc cutter and heap off rebar for 3 days cutting it into 300mm bits....what a job,you will probilly get away without using them but if it spec. include it MSH :)

Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2011 7:09 am
by GB_Groundworks
Spec says insert into plastic gen 1 Crete then haunch over the top so no mention of a day joint, I'll use them as no reason not to butseemed overkill in a filled kerb as well

Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2011 6:24 pm
by henpecked
Kerb raise and haunch later?
Just to avoid slip joint I suppose. Usually they want long runs ready to be kerbed after the brickies have done. So this would make sense if it was the case, you sure its all in one go?

Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2011 6:53 pm
by GB_Groundworks
its only 8m around a new disabled parking space think can handle that in a day ;) lol

Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2011 7:52 pm
by henpecked
GB_Groundworks wrote:its only 8m around a new disabled parking space think can handle that in a day ;) lol
well I was going to say........ :D :laugh:

Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2011 7:52 pm
by ilovesettsonmondays
its overkill , load of rollox .

Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2011 7:56 pm
by henpecked
ilovesettsonmondays wrote:its overkill , load of rollox .
A dizzy bay isnt going to get much stick either, could understand it if it was and Island kerb, or something that would have the chance of a wagon over it, then again, they are putting hiabs on ambulances now so.......... :laugh:

Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2011 7:59 pm
by pickwell paving
We've only used dowels on new housing estates where we lay the kerbs on the kerb race after all the building work etc has been done.

Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2011 8:08 pm
by ilovesettsonmondays
i kerbed shaftesbury avenue , parts of regent street etc . mega traffic only bars we ever used , where the ones were they didnt mind working gear

Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2011 8:13 pm
by GB_Groundworks
anyone know the going rate on tactile/blister paving? works out about £90 a metre to buy the stuff, know what it would cost me tolay it but wondered if there was a civils rate?

Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2011 8:22 pm
by ilovesettsonmondays
all depends on whats going next to it .slabs ,tarmac??/

Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2011 8:24 pm
by henpecked
GB_Groundworks wrote:anyone know the going rate on tactile/blister paving? works out about £90 a metre to buy the stuff, know what it would cost me tolay it but wondered if there was a civils rate?
Not sure but as I remember it would be a good price as its safety spec.

Reminds me of some clown who said 'we have loads of that (tactile) paving left, if you want it you can have it for £20'

I said

'Oh yeah. And what do I say to all the blind people coming up my path looking for the crossing ?'

:laugh: :laugh: