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Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 10:26 pm
by GB_Groundworks
In the van on the m1 heading for the tunnel, arguing with my mate about his house, had it reskimmed and I'm saying best off sealing it with a diluted emulsion mix and pva for kitchen and bathroom. Our decorators do this and seen it on most Sites but he thinks he knows better and doesn't have to.
Bloody musicians, anyone know of new paints etc that mean you don't have to?
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Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 7:17 am
by seanandruby
pva should'nt be used where damp conditions will occur ie kitchens, bathrooms etc. I think just watered down coating will do the trick. also i think you can use the pre wallpaper paste stuff, can't think of the name at the minute.
Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 7:49 am
by GB_Groundworks
I know it's water soluble but seen a few web pages that say use pva in bathrooms and kitchens and if you are going to use oil based paints you should use pva
Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 8:08 am
by henpecked
Usually a thin coat of emulsion is used ,called a p1ss coat. This seals the dust from plastering. Also, if the skim as been polished too much, he might have to rough it up with sandpaper as it will reduced adhesion.
Hp
Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 1:16 pm
by mickg
I concur with henpecked, never heard or seen a painter using polybond
Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 4:45 pm
by lutonlagerlout
our fella mist coats it with watered down emulsion then fills anything that needs it
the only time i see him use PVA is when trying to paint over old lead based paints on coving that cant be rubbed down
LLL
Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 6:41 pm
by flowjoe
There was a thread on the screwfix site on this subject some time back, got quite heated with P & D tradesman of 20 years falling out over what was the best practice.
I always thought a mist coat of thin emulsion was standard but as someone has mentioned very thin wallpaper paste is also a good sealant prior to papering.
Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 8:02 pm
by lutonlagerlout
i have seen that done as well joe,they call it " sizing" the wall
LLL
Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 8:37 pm
by Bob_A
And if you're really posh instead of watering down wallpaper paste you can buy this
Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 9:27 pm
by Mikey_C
dulux do a new plaster paint (emulsion), expensive mind. I always understood you used a watered down emulsion as a base coat, or just straight B&Q value emulsion which is essential the same thing!!
sizing the wall with diluted wall paper paste (or sizing paste) is only if you are then wallpapering as opposed to painting straight on the wall.
Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 11:20 pm
by henpecked
Mikey_C wrote:dulux do a new plaster paint (emulsion), expensive mind. I always understood you used a watered down emulsion as a base coat, or just straight B&Q value emulsion which is essential the same thing!!
sizing the wall with diluted wall paper paste (or sizing paste) is only if you are then wallpapering as opposed to painting straight on the wall.
Yes, size is used when papering as a pose to painting, hence the 'watered down paste' bit.
Hp
Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2010 8:39 am
by seanandruby
That's it....sizing, must be me dimentia setting in ( ergo msh before you correct me on spelling ) :;): :laugh:
Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2010 8:54 am
by lutonlagerlout
what junctions of the M1 do you use giles?
I live like close to JCT 10 but work from 6 to 12
be stuffed without it
LLL
Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2010 8:49 pm
by GB_Groundworks
just got back 1500 miles in 36 hours, 1 festival in a castle ruin, no sleep lots of jaeger and wine, 3 blood injuries i knocked the above mentioned freind and lead singer out in what can only be described as horse play after the gig and jeagermeister, kind of wrestling and we both ended up on the floor.
he was out cold so we bungled him into the trusty mid sized transit 98 on an S plate and headed for calais at 5.30am this morning. i sobered up and drove the last 5 hours, van only do 70 on a downhill run and the seat was stuck right forward which for an 18 stone, 6ft rugby lad with size 13 boots isnt very comfy.
but had a cracking time, quality trip lots of banter
Tony, we use 28 for chesterfield but stayed in Yately, on thursday night to get an early start.
saw lots of mick o brien plant on the m1 widening down your way
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Posted: Sat Aug 21, 2010 9:02 pm
by mickg
you bully :p