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Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 3:58 pm
by GB_Groundworks
just done some permitter wall footings for a guy, he'd drawn the plans himself for planning scaled 1:100. so he gave me 2 pieces a4 to work off to be fair worst drawings i've ever worked off.but show what needs to be done.
so i set out and poured the footings last week and now client wants them moving so more prounced sweep.
so met him today scaled off with protractor and scale rule and he agreed what i had done was the drawing, but he wants them changing.
i'd be well within my right to charge him??? he wasn't around during pouring of them.
i wont will only take me a day to widen the footing on the arcs of the radius but its annoying.
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Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 4:51 pm
by msh paving
I would say if he has agreed to what you have done is as drawing,and is happy you did it as drawing, there is no problem in asking for more money,he is the one changing his mind MSH 
Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 4:54 pm
by Suggers
Absolutely you should charge him - you both agreed the footings are as per his drawing. His mistake, surely?
That's my thinking anyway - keep it all good-natured tho... :;):
Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 5:08 pm
by lutonlagerlout
charge him 100%
I hate doing jobs without proper architect's drawing
I like it in black and white,and if its done to the drawing it cannot be wrong
if they want to amend then its extras time
LLL
Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 5:25 pm
by GB_Groundworks
i've done his 7x6.5 garage and these walls but theres a larger knock down and extension to come on his house, i'll hold off on the likely hood that i'll get this job.
plus i'm pouring the garage slab this week so one job as already spurned 2 more and a potentially nice 3rd one,
the guy knew he was wrong but for £150 or so it not worth potentially loosing the job but i thought i was right. :p
yeah i hate non architects drawings no elevations or datums on these
Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 6:16 pm
by lutonlagerlout
well maybe do it giles ,but make sure he knows your getting him out of the mire,and appreciates it.
personally I dislike changing stuff for nothing as once you have done it once they start taking liberties
LLL
Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 8:31 am
by cookiewales
GB_Groundworks wrote:i've done his 7x6.5 garage and these walls but theres a larger knock down and extension to come on his house, i'll hold off on the likely hood that i'll get this job.
plus i'm pouring the garage slab this week so one job as already spurned 2 more and a potentially nice 3rd one,
the guy knew he was wrong but for £150 or so it not worth potentially loosing the job but i thought i was right. :p
yeah i hate non architects drawings no elevations or datums on these
do the job giles but add it on next job he wont know ps just ask for moneys for extra concrete thats reasnable :p jesus wheres the spell check :p
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Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 4:38 pm
by lutonlagerlout
cookie if you are using google/firefox as your browser (most are)
then click
tools,
add ons,
then in the search box,type: British English dictionary 1.19
then download and install this little tool
any time you make a spelling mistake it underlines it in red and if you hold the mouse over it ,it gives you a list of possible correct answers
I use it all the time and it actually improved my spelling
cheers LLL
Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 5:42 pm
by cookiewales
lutonlagerlout wrote:cookie if you are using google/firefox as your browser (most are)
then click
tools,
add ons,
then in the search box,type: British English dictionary 1.19
then download and install this little tool
any time you make a spelling mistake it underlines it in red and if you hold the mouse over it ,it gives you a list of possible correct answers
I use it all the time and it actually improved my spelling
cheers LLL
now then lets try some spelling contagious special emulsify ha getting there ???
Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 6:52 pm
by Tony McC
You can't beat a good spill chucker 
Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 6:53 pm
by rab1
you have to be sensible about charging for things, the guy knows he made an arse of it and needs your help to fix it. charge him a little extra next time. remember this, when he`s down the pub/work etc telling everyone what a great guy you are for pulling him out of a hole. ??? 
Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 8:56 pm
by GB_Groundworks
i got him and the "builder" out today. the builder yesterday had roughtly with the spray line drawn some arcs a lot shallower than mine,
so i spent 20 mins scaling all the dimensions onto my drawing. then marking it all onto the site in spray line and it all fit and worked with 2.4m radius arcs.
i then pointed out that if they went with the rough free hand footings that they need to reapply for planning as the opening would have gone from 7m to 12m.
needless to say the bricky insisted the walls wouldn;t work and the footing needed to be further over,
i widenend the corners ever so slighty and threw in another .3m2 concrete
edit:
yes this is the job i got burnt on haha and i am using spray line again
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Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 9:09 pm
by lutonlagerlout
they sound like chancers TBH giles
LLL
Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 9:28 pm
by GB_Groundworks
i pull up and they're like magpies can i borrow :- laser level, showel, pick axe, shovel, brick hammer, string line, 2" water pump to clear footing,
they're using one of our brickies but hes just carrying on, as we are 2nd fixing on our big house project so he needs the work he just bites his lip and takes the money. they're good lads just very under tooled or experienced. the lad can lay bricks but by sounds its his first job on his own.
i guess visibility splays and building regs etc aren't important on per m2 brick work for redrow etc. we wanted to slope the drive way down and discahrge onto highway i said he can't without additional planning etc he didn't know about that.
the house owner is paying me out of they're money so i'll get paid ok and the owner is a nice bloke but again finding his feet project managing and designing his first building project.
Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 9:28 pm
by msh paving
cut your losses and run giles , not worth the messing with people like that MSH