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Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2009 4:25 pm
by Tommy
Basically, our dump is as such, a dump. Looking at least 100 tonnes of green waste, and then a load of building waste from the building contractors.

We've had a couple of 40 yard skips come and go...eventually (ever seen a 8 wheeler sliding sideways in the mud?)

Now with the rain this week, made everything 10 times worse, and the truck couldnt get anywhere near.
This morning, another driver decided to have a go, and was successful in getting stuck.

So I ask, is there any way of shifting a fully loaded 40 cube skip nearer the entrance? Bearing in mind we only have a 75hp New holland tractor/loader, and an 85hp NH, with turf tyres.

Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2009 5:31 pm
by Pablo
Use a truck jack to get skids under it then a strong winch or a large digger should be able to haul it. Keep moving the skids just like the romans did.

Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2009 5:55 pm
by DNgroundworks
Emphasis on "large digger"!!

Be rather expensive though.

Even if the digger couldnt pull it you could take some out with the digger then put it back in?

Will it weigh around 50 tonne fully loaded?

Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2009 5:58 pm
by msh paving
Years ago i was on a muck shift job,the site had become a swamp and the scrapers could not work, old muck shift forman saw a straw stack...... in farmers field so he had a deal and bought it spread the straw on the haul road at the crossings no more stuck scrapers,

so maybe if you can fine a few large straw bales under the skip wagons wheels it might work spread about a 8-12 inches deep

MSH :)

Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 12:18 am
by Tommy
Actually, that might work, we have some Contractors in doing the groundworks for a car park, they have a JS220 on that job although it might make a mess on the roads, and more likely, a farm a few hundred metres away.


Hindsight is a wonderful thing. Would have made more sense to put the skip on the access track, and load it from there.

But then this is company that cant afford to kit us out with new ear defenders, but have found funds for an environmental affairs officer, and a projects manager, each on 46k a year

Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 11:27 am
by Pablo
DNgroundworks wrote:Emphasis on "large digger"!!

Be rather expensive though.

Even if the digger couldnt pull it you could take some out with the digger then put it back in?

Will it weigh around 50 tonne fully loaded?
40yd skips are hauled by 6-8 wheeled trucks so they cannot weight any more than approx 22 tons. If it's full of green waste then it's likely that it weighs just half that. There are firms that could get that out with a fastrack and a flatbed trailer with a crane. Try a large tree surgery firm one local to me has one that can lift a JS150 at full reach but it's normal use is to lift and lower entire crowns.

Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 1:28 pm
by Tommy
It is more a mix of rubble, pallets, lumps of coping stones, bollards and filled with the rest of the muck.

The green waste is all being dumped on the neighbouring farmers field, which he will spread and plough in when the time comes.

Then all the dump is being scraped, levelled and made into a hard standing with bays for the different waste. I think the old buildings are being refubished - former dwellings of the Groundsmen, several of whom still frequent the garage up there.

Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 2:38 pm
by DNgroundworks
Pablo - thats why i asked the question hence the "?" ive never had a 40 yd skip, use eight wheelers for muck shiftin.

Are we talkin one of them high sided jobbies about 8 - 10ft high?

Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 3:33 pm
by Tommy
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About 10 days ago, before the rain




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A view down the track

Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 9:37 pm
by seanandruby
Cant you work your way in digging out and laying hardcore as you go, then at the end scrap off any sludge and start formation, like you would for a bog mat, or a piling mat?