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Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 6:33 pm
by Ted
I want to move a garage similar to this, except this one is three bay with a log store on the side.
Has anyone ever tried moving one before?
The garage is made by Border Oak...
http://www.borderoak.com/
My plan was to lift it up somehow on a couple of tractors and move it to its new position but the ground is not perfectly level so I don't know how well this plan would work.
Some people tell me to take it to pieces and rebuild it but others say it will never go back together very well.
I supposed I might be able to lift it up with a crane and move it...
Has anyone tried moving a garage similar to this?
What method did you use?
Did it work well, or not?
Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 10:25 am
by Tony McC
I've never moved owt like that, but the one thing I do know about moving structures such as this is that lifting and shifting completely changes the direction of forces for which they are designed. A structure can be incredibly strong when sat there, in compression due to gravity, but as soon as you attempt to lift it from the top, it goes into tension and falls apart.
So: all I can suggest is finding some way of fixing the lifting points at the base of the structure so that it remains in compression during the move.
Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 10:57 am
by steve r
Problem with an oak framed building is all the joints will be pegged, so taking it apart will be a problem.
Lifting will also be difficult as Tony says.
The centre support at the front sits on a stone block and when you lift it will leave the front of the roof unsupported.
Although I have assembled one of these buildings I have not attempted to move one.
Maybe you could bolt a length of timber across the front and put your strops under that.
Edited By steve r on 1182938987
Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 9:34 pm
by lutonlagerlout
well i would have thought you need a crane at least ,theres £5-700 gone
then as the gaffer says things lifted like that have a tendancy to fall apart
no way of stripping the roof and taking it down and rebuilding?
LLL ???
Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 4:13 pm
by andpartington
drop a match on a pile of oily rags and scrap timber petrol can ect and get a new one on the insurance and get it put where you need it if its time for a new truck stick it under as well :d
or get some chavs to chuck the match on
how far does it have to go?
andy
Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 6:31 pm
by dig dug dan
you have to jack the building up and slide long rsj's under each set of legs so the stick out beyond the building. The crane can then attach to these to lift, and plce in its new position.
This is how I have seen it done before
Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 7:27 pm
by Ted
lutonlagerlout wrote:no way of stripping the roof and taking it down and rebuilding?
LLL ???
Well we could, but I have been told by some sources that as it is Oak it will never go back together quite as well but others say taking it down is not a problem...
Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 9:26 pm
by lutonlagerlout
i would have thought its a days work for 3 blokes dismantling it so theres £450 ish
and 2 days rebuilding it at least so theres £1500 that way
with a crane you need a banksman and a lot of luck
decisions decisions
dont you get any straightforward jopbs ted???????
saying that we started a job in harpenden today and straightaway, i spotted an 8 M pine tree 2 m away from the proposed wall
BCO came out and said "lets start at 2.5m deep and see what we find"
always get these low access no-brainers???
lol
LLL
Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 10:14 pm
by seanandruby
jack it up and put "strong backs" underneath then hire a large forklift. strong backs by RMD falsework. :;):
Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 9:18 am
by Dave_L
Anybody watch "Mega Movers" on Sky?
Best get them over from the USA to do the job.
Could be expensive
Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 9:23 am
by IanMelb
I saw one a while back - might have been mega movers. They were moving a grain silo about 20 miles in the Rockies. This thing was about 6 stories high ...
Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 9:48 am
by Dave_L
Yeah that's it - some of the moves they do are very dodgy! They seem to have a fairly good success rate though.....
Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 6:18 pm
by seanandruby
have you seen the bridge over the runway at gatwick? we built that landside then moved it airside. took a week to get it in place.
Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 1:44 am
by matt h
H aving costructed several oak framed structures, it is probablly best to dismantle and rebuild, due to the inherent stresses created trying to lift them. May have to make new pegs and replace some tiles, but at least the structure will remain intact. I know its time consuming but at least you wont be paying out for replacement beams.etc
Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 11:26 am
by Ted
seanandruby wrote:have you seen the bridge over the runway at gatwick? we built that landside then moved it airside. took a week to get it in place.
I haven't been to Gatwick for a few years but is it sensible to have a bridge over a runway!? ???