Wall plates - Do you secure joists to it ?

[Mick Leek]

Hi all,

I know this has nothing whatsoever to do with paving, but i know a few of you work on sites and probably have mates who are joiners or roofers.

I have secured the wall plate to the inner wall on the extension i am building. Used 1 meter wall straps, but once i add the perlings (Hips) how, or do i secure these to the plates ? The hips are 10" X 3" so cant just nail. I presume there is some sort of bracket that is used.

the main joist are all then secured to the hips, now i know these can be secured with nails as they are only 6" x 2"

Any help would be great, OR even better would be a joiner living near Blackburn who would like to earn a few quid and give me a lift.... Can i find a joiner that isnt busy Can i Flip.

need to get a roof on soon with the really bad weather coming soon....

Thanks all

Mick.

[Tony McC]

If I've followed your narrative correctly, what you need are 'Joist Hangers'

... http://www.expamet.co.uk/bp/products/batspee2.html



Edited By Tony McC on 1132170909

[remus]

Hi Mick
First I am not a carpenter but my dad was. From what I can remember when I was on sites with him.Where the two wall plates join at 90 deg (eg the corners )the corner of the wall plate is cut off. The Hip then has a birdsmouth cut where it runs over the wall plate. this is then fixed to the wall plate (or at least was in the past) by side nailing enter into the hip 2 - 3 inches up and nail from both sides.

have just done a search this site might be of use will also show what a birdsmouth is.

http://www.josephfusco.org/Article....%20hip.

one point that dad has just said the time you take the corner off the wall plate to get a 3" wide timber on it there will not be much wall plate to fix to. He never used that size timber for hips.
Hope this may be of help

Kevin.

[Mick Leek]

Cheers guys,

Have now 2 new designs for the planning department. 1 is with the extended eaves. 1 Is a new design i have done myself......

Will let you know what happens.... If anyone decides to build there own extension, ensure your bloody archietect knows what he is doing is my advice....

[Tony McC]

An architect that knows what s/he is doing? Don't be silly! The whole point of architects is that they never know what they're doing!

[Mick Leek]

Hi Tony,

Im glad my experience with the architect isnt an isolated one then.

Nice to know ive not been the only one with my pants down being shafted... ???

every time i ring him all he says is " Oh isnt it right? what do they want me to do now "

I feel like saying " you should bloody know you are a damb so-called professional..

I have done everything upto now without any problems, but thgis bloody roof is a nightmare