Cracked drain or bad gully construction? - Damp patio problem.

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hugh jampton
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Post: # 89740Post hugh jampton

Hi,

We have a gully/drain at the back of our 1930s built house which takes all the waste water from the kitchen and bathroom. The patio (added by a previous owner) in which the gully sits is constantly damp as is the garden which adjoins it. The brickwork which retains the patio is starting to spall. The house itself seems unaffected (touch wood).

A couple of years ago I had someone look at the drain with an inspection camera which was inserted at the manhole half way down the garden and pushed back up under the patio to the galley trap. No cracks were evident and the operator advised re-pointing some of the brickwork above the gully. This was done but there does not seem to have been any improvement. The patio slabs are cemented in place so investigation from the top is not too easy.

The drain itself has to deal with quite a lot of water for its size and the grate which sits about one metre below the patio surface is often submerged during heavy use. Could the brickwork above the grate be absorbing water during these periods and making it damp under the patio? Or could the trap in the drain be damaged in some way? If the former, can the gully be re-lined/rendered or does it need to be completely rebuilt?

Obviously we don't really want to start any disruptive and costly investigation work if there's something else we could try first.

Hopefully the pictures will help illustrate the problem.

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

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Post: # 89742Post lutonlagerlout

have you cleaned the gully out?
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hugh jampton
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Post: # 89757Post hugh jampton

Yes, I put a bottle of Knockout drain cleaner down there last week to try and improve the flow. It helped a little but the water level inside the trap still gets very high when there's a lot of water going down it.

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Post: # 89763Post seanandruby

A bottle of cleaner doesn't get rid of heavy silt etc: You need to get your hand down there and pull out any shite in the gully. Was there any mention of a backfall in the pipework? Maybe also rod the drain from the manhole using appropriate fitting on the end. Also check the manhole in heavy rain to see if the water is going out quick enough, may be a blockage further along on the outgoing pipework. Hope this is helpful.
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hugh jampton
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Post: # 89797Post hugh jampton

Thanks for the advice. I've got my hand in as far as it'll go but it's pretty narrow so that's not very far. When the manhole was up it looked pretty clean, no obvious signs of the water level having risen at any time but it's definitely worth another look. The fall on the pipe hadn't occurred to me either.

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