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Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 9:01 am
by Robo
Hello.

I'm running drainage across my house and garage but the garage is lower than the house. The drains will be 2 bricks below the house dpc but 1 above the garage dpc.

If I were to paint the bricks 150mm above the drains with wickes damp proof course paint would this be ok?

Many thanks.

Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 9:13 am
by local patios and driveway
Nahh that will just trap moisture behind and above the damp course, put a picture up for the lads to have a look.

Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 9:28 am
by Robo
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This is where the drains are going to to connect. I ideally want them to all be level but this means breaching the dpc

Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 9:31 am
by Robo
This is the house on right garage on left.

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Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 10:07 am
by Pablo
http://www.pavingexpert.com/dpc01.hhtm
middle of the page dry area arrangements.




Edited By Pablo on 1330769364

Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 10:28 am
by Robo
I did have a read of that before but am looking for a solution to keep the drains the same level. A builder has suggested installing some lead flashing 150mm up 50mm down. Would this be acceptable?

Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 1:03 pm
by local patios and driveway
Do not listen to that builder! What a bodger. The only solution i would be happy with is the whole surface 2 courses below garage dpc. Anthing you put infront of the bricks that are above the dpc will be a trap for damp. They need to be exposed so they can breath and stay dry.

Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 2:18 pm
by DNgroundworks
Can you not have the drains finishing 4 bricks below damp on the house, and 2 below the garage dpc to get them on the same level and have a step to get in the house door? whoever built the garage made a cock up there, surely they should have got FFL and the damp courses of the two buildings level?

LLL knows a bit about lead flashings and work arounds hell be along shortly

Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 3:34 pm
by lutonlagerlout
code 4 lead flashing is an expensive but acceptable workaround
the linear drain must be flush with the garage floor that is your datum, the drain should then cut across the front of the house at that level with 1:80 fall approx
you will probably need to build a step or ramp to gain access to your door
a picture of the whole frontage would be handy
cheers LLL :)

Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 8:10 pm
by Robo
Lowering the whole garden would be a nightmare as the whole garden would need to be hand dug but I agree a 2 and 4 below would be best.

I've thought about staggering the drains but a 200mm wide void is going to be a hazard with small children around.

What I'm looking at now is a 150mm hardcore base upto 1 below damp, drain on top of this 1 above damp with flashing 1 below and 2 above damp.

The garage is single skin so if I have problem I'm sure they wil soon show themselves.

Things are never simple!

Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 8:58 pm
by lutonlagerlout
I have staggered drains height wise before but we had to build a small retaining wall to overcome the difference in levels
a picture of the whole frontage would be handy
cheers LLL :)

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 1:56 pm
by Forestboy1978
Why would the garden have to hand dug? You can if necessary get a mini digger through a front door and through the house if you have no gate! Worse case scenario!

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 2:30 pm
by seanandruby
Bit of a tight space between there to use a digger, you wouldn't be able to swing the arm, so you'd have to keep pulling it back.

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 4:30 pm
by Robo
A diggers out the question im afraid, as is lowering to 4 below damp as this would mean replacing the mains sewer pipe where the man hole is on the patio.