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Posted: **Wed Feb 20, 2008 10:45 am**

Hello, this is my first post so a quick Hi to all forum members.

I also have a question or two for you. I am currently costing construction of a small community garden in Glasgow and I wanted to use self binding gravel for my path surface. My main supplier, JW Grant, has not heard of self binding gravel and the opposition, Build Centre is the same. However, Build Centre did offer me Whin Dust which they describe as the fines from type 1. What I would like to know is this. Does anybody know of a source of self binding around Glasgow? Also, should this fail, will the fines from type 1 act in a similar way to self binding gravel. From my experience of using type 1 when I get a patch of fine material, say from the bottom of a bag, once compacted it does not bind together to a satisfactory level to be suitable for a surface material but stays relatively loose and easily disturbed. It could be that self binding has a local name that I don't know or it just has not reached this far north yet. Any suggestions on this matter would be gratefully received.

Thanks

Posted: **Thu Feb 21, 2008 4:51 pm**

Hi Botanical

There is some info about Self binding gravel at:

www.pavingexpert.com/gravel05.htm

Darren

Posted: **Fri Feb 22, 2008 11:25 am**

Thanks Darren, yes I've seen this info in fact this is where I found out about it in the first place. Problem is when I describe it to suppliers up here they have not got a clue what I am talking about.

Posted: **Fri Feb 22, 2008 1:37 pm**

Hi Botanical

I believe It is sometimes referred to as "HOGGIN"

If you try asking for that they may know what it is ?

Gardeners use it quite a bit so if you have no luck with a builders merchant up there you could maybe try large garden centres.

Hope this helps ?

Darren

Posted: **Fri Feb 22, 2008 5:50 pm**

hoggin is a mixture of gravel and clay ,mainly available in the south east
the gaffer hates it,
and it is a last resort

selfbinding gravel has fines which help bind it together ,not mud
cheers LLL

Posted: **Sat Feb 23, 2008 5:52 am**

Have you looked at any "quarries" around there to source it from?

Posted: **Thu Feb 28, 2008 1:28 pm**

Yes just off the phone from a couple of quarries. Quote "Whats that, gravel no we dont have dust in our gravel, we can give you 10mm, would that do".

It seems strange that nobody has heard of this product. Having to get quotes for delivery from England.

Posted: **Thu Feb 28, 2008 1:34 pm**

There is always the option of specifying my needs to the quarry. Does anyone know a good specification for self binding gravel? I guess I would need to know the ratio of sizes not to mention the actual sizes best suited.

Could start it off up here myself.

Thanks

Posted: **Wed Mar 05, 2008 6:26 pm**

Most SBGs are based on limestone, which is not prevalent north of the Tweed. I seem to recall that a Glasgow-based contractor was bringing SBG in from Carnforth in N. Lancashire/Cumbria as there was nowt suitable in Scotland.

Have you tried asking from "Grano Dust"?

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