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Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 11:47 pm
by oldtroutat42
Well finally decided that scattering gravel on glue would suit job in hand. Now fed up with a week of evenings spent on dial-up internet trying to track down glue supplier to bond the gravel to concrete base. Any suggestions? Thanks ??? ???
Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 9:02 am
by steve r
Not quite as simple as chucking some garvel onto glue.
have a look at this page
http://www.pavingexpert.com/resin.htm
You will also see a list of suppliers at the top.
Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 7:08 pm
by seanandruby
Get a pile of stone then get your wife to glue one at a time and pass them to you, place em side by side. That way your fingers will be too sore to type in stupid questions :p
Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 8:05 am
by simeonronacrete
A true story...
A builder ("Yer mate, never done it before but if I can build brick walls I can lay your stuff") thought he'd have a go and do-it-himself, phoned us and asked if it (Ronadeck Fast Grip) was a DIY product.
We told him "No" in no uncertain terms, told him to read and re-read the lengthy and detailed data sheet, but he still went ahead and bought it, about £2k worth of resin and aggregate.
He "had a go", then phoned us to say "Your f***ing stuff doesnt work, my drive looks awful, who's going to pay to put it right". Well, he did, about £6k worth of more materials and experienced labour.
Sorry, it isn't DIY - well it is if you're prepared to do it once, wrong, then have it done again, properly.
As John Ruskin said"
"It is unwise to pay too much, but it is unwise to pay too little. When you pay too much, you lose a little money; that is all. When you pay too little you sometimes lose everything. Because the thing you bought was incapable of doing the thing you bought it to do.
The common law of business balance prohibits paying a little and getting a lot. It cannot be done. If you deal with the lowest bidder, it is well to add something for the risk you run and if you do that, you will have enough to pay for something better."
Have a nice day.
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 8:23 am
by Dave_L
Not wanting to be rude, but is this thread serious?
My 2 cents - "Superglue in 1000L pallet containers should do the trick", so I'm told.
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 11:58 am
by oldtroutat42
Well, thanks for all the constructive comments. Yes it was a serious post. No I didn't use technical terms although I have researched the subject and feel I have an informed knowledge of the pro's and cons as well as the H&S issues, just thought it might allow small minded males to access my query. Oh and by the way, I am the wife!
I have also further researched and still trying to decide whether the advice given by Simeon on Aug5th 2003 contradicts his rather elitist comment on my posting. Shame really because I have always found this website so helpful. 
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 7:37 pm
by lutonlagerlout
i think what they are trying to say Mrs. trout is that resin bonded gravel like pattern imprinted concrete is a 1 hit job and there fore not suitable for DIY
block paving ,slabs and flags can be corrected but not these 2 finishes
caveat emptor
regards LLL
Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 3:11 am
by Suggers
Hi Mrs Trout - you've just poked your head into the Brew Cabin on a cold and frosty morning - through the fug of ciggy smoke & steam, you lob in a question, as if it's a joke - it could be a wind up ? - nevertheless a couple of old boys raise their heads and answer your question - you can't be precious if you're on site.
ps - Simeon - he no speak with forked tongue.
Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 9:17 am
by seanandruby
I apologise Mrs trout. I didn't read your name before posting, so didn't realise you are a lady. 
may i ask you a question...."if i put some cold water in a jug and threw in some bisto, would that make gravy"? Hope you understand why we thought your question was a wind up.?
Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 8:51 pm
by oldtroutat42
I am aware of the complexities and the possibility of making a right pig's ear of the job but ....as it says on the ronacrete site one of the big advantages of the scattered gravel bonding system is its ease of application. If only trained experts can apply this type of surfacing why would ronacrete go to all that trouble of putting such detailed and informative info about its application etc on their website. Put this with the comment from simeon that the resin is available to the general public then it does start to look possible for a non expert (who works daily with resin applications in the boat building industry -I know its not the same as paving) to think their might be an inkling of a chance to have a level of success on a small concreted area of no great significance. Don't you lot like a challenge or is it a girl thing?
As for the water and bisto query, I personally don't think gravy would help in this situation, unless you've heard how bad my gravy is, might just be solid enough to embed gravel into. Only problem I would then have is what to do with the roast beef and yorkshire puddings. Any takers?:0
Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 9:47 pm
by THE CONCRETE QUEEN
Hi,
Well from one woman in the industry to another clearly capable of being in the industry, just wanted to let you know the answer to your question!! From my signature below you will see the website for my supply company so bit of a tout, not sure if this is allowed, but just seems to me your question still hasnt been answered... some things are made so complicated, oh and I personally as a woman have sucessfully carried out several installations..... although not single handedly, takes a few pairs of those!!! Anyway I can provide advice, if requested or products oh and training!!
Regards
PS thats not to say I dont agree with some of the comments by Simeon, it is by no means an easy or straight forward process but as long as your aware of that the decision is yours and yours alone.
Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 10:47 pm
by lutonlagerlout
some nice stuff you have been doing CQ but i felt the article on your website disparaging block paving and tarmac was a little wide of the mark
like your own good selves the installation is the key to success,not necessarily the format
nice job you did at my pal nick's crib though 
LLL
Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 8:02 am
by Dave_L
lutonlagerlout wrote:i felt the article on your website disparaging block paving and tarmac was a little wide of the mark
Same here!
