Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2015 8:22 pm
What would you use on this one?
very tidy job that sy
lovin that brickwork
personally a dark resin mortar but its up to the client really mate
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Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2015 1:14 am
Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2015 7:27 am
I prefer a light grout with something like this to give a contrast, bit like the mortar contrasts with the brickwork.
As LLL says, nice job.
Whose the slate from.
As LLL says, nice job.
Whose the slate from.
Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2015 11:12 am
nice job Simon
I would use a dark grout as anything light discolours in a short time anyway
I would use a dark grout as anything light discolours in a short time anyway
Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2015 4:22 pm
Thanks lads.
The photo only shows the main patio area. The paving goes around 3 sides of the building and it's a fairly big house.
I hadn't thought of using a dark grout but I suggested it to the client this morning. I think he's more likely to use a light colour though.
I don't think a resin based jointing compound will look right with this stuff. What do you think?
The slate comes from 2 different places Mark. Most of it is from a local stone merchant and I got a pack of 3x2's from nustone.
This one's ran over on time and budget again. Should have it finished next week hopefully.
The photo only shows the main patio area. The paving goes around 3 sides of the building and it's a fairly big house.
I hadn't thought of using a dark grout but I suggested it to the client this morning. I think he's more likely to use a light colour though.
I don't think a resin based jointing compound will look right with this stuff. What do you think?
The slate comes from 2 different places Mark. Most of it is from a local stone merchant and I got a pack of 3x2's from nustone.
This one's ran over on time and budget again. Should have it finished next week hopefully.
Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2015 6:39 am
Lovely job. Pity the client couldn't of gone for a wider step and doubled it to threshold height.
Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2015 7:40 am
Thanks Sean.
We were pretty much stuck with the sizes on all the steps. Tis a shame.
We were pretty much stuck with the sizes on all the steps. Tis a shame.
Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2015 11:23 am
Nice work Sam black basalt resin never fades will look good 😀😀
Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2015 1:54 pm
Cheers Cookie. Another vote for dark resin. Interesting.
I think it will look between the slate but probably loose the detail in the blue brick border.
My main concern with resin or mortar is look and texture rather than colour.
Resin mortar might not look right in a brick paved border. I have never used it in that type of border so can't be sure.
I know that mortar will look nice but you get all the problems and ball ache that go with it.
This will be one one the nicer patio ' s I've done since starting on my own so just want to get it right.
I think it will look between the slate but probably loose the detail in the blue brick border.
My main concern with resin or mortar is look and texture rather than colour.
Resin mortar might not look right in a brick paved border. I have never used it in that type of border so can't be sure.
I know that mortar will look nice but you get all the problems and ball ache that go with it.
This will be one one the nicer patio ' s I've done since starting on my own so just want to get it right.
Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2015 5:07 pm
Lovely work Si. I'm slurring everything at the moment, used to like a smooth clean mortar joint but much prefer the textured finish and colour of sharp/cement sbr slurry now. Cheap and bomb proof.
Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2015 6:41 pm
Thanks Ashley. I nicked the brick border idea from you btw.
What's your formula if you don't mind me asking?
If I go down that route I was thinking 4/1 mix using half building sand half plastering sand mixed to a custard type consistancy, squigy it in, leave to stiffen up a bit then sponge down and rinse well.
I thought about adding SBR for strength and weather resistance but permanent surface staining worried me.
It's also interesting that you use sharp sand. My joints are 8 - 10mm do you think the sharp might cause joins with a narrow sawn joint?
What's your formula if you don't mind me asking?
If I go down that route I was thinking 4/1 mix using half building sand half plastering sand mixed to a custard type consistancy, squigy it in, leave to stiffen up a bit then sponge down and rinse well.
I thought about adding SBR for strength and weather resistance but permanent surface staining worried me.
It's also interesting that you use sharp sand. My joints are 8 - 10mm do you think the sharp might cause joins with a narrow sawn joint?
Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2015 7:49 pm
Simon
Was this the paving you called me about the other day? if yes then yes you can seal it, Miracle 511 Enhance & Seal impregnating and colour enhancing sealer. So seeing as you haven't pointed the paving yet if the weather is good, would be good to seal before you point to stop the slurry staining?
Was this the paving you called me about the other day? if yes then yes you can seal it, Miracle 511 Enhance & Seal impregnating and colour enhancing sealer. So seeing as you haven't pointed the paving yet if the weather is good, would be good to seal before you point to stop the slurry staining?
Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2015 8:01 pm
Rodger you are a diamond mate.
Yes it's the same job, weather for this week looks appalling though and I'm hoping to have it finished for Friday.
Not only that it's covered in cutting and manufacturing dust at the minute so I don't think sealing would be a good idea until it's weathered for a season as you suggested on the phone.
Having said that I know very little about sealing paving so do you think it's a good idea if I manage to get the dust off with a pressure washer?
Thinking about it further, I think that this type of slate has a chance of some of the surface flaking away over the first few months.
Thanks for the info on the sealer too Roger.
Yes it's the same job, weather for this week looks appalling though and I'm hoping to have it finished for Friday.
Not only that it's covered in cutting and manufacturing dust at the minute so I don't think sealing would be a good idea until it's weathered for a season as you suggested on the phone.
Having said that I know very little about sealing paving so do you think it's a good idea if I manage to get the dust off with a pressure washer?
Thinking about it further, I think that this type of slate has a chance of some of the surface flaking away over the first few months.
Thanks for the info on the sealer too Roger.
Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2015 8:13 pm
The surface would need to be absolutely clear of any dust, mortar haze etc before sealing and bone dry. So with this weeks weather forecast looking crap, if you can get the pointing done, go that route, leaving the surface as clean as possible as you go a long, (Don't mean to tell you your job there) and it won't do any harm it letting the paving run the winter months, then when the weather is right April onwards, clean allow to dry then seal, job done. The sealer I recommend will enhance the colour but won't give you the wet look though.sy76uk wrote:Rodger you are a diamond mate.
Yes it's the same job, weather for this week looks appalling though and I'm hoping to have it finished for Friday.
Not only that it's covered in cutting and manufacturing dust at the minute so I don't think sealing would be a good idea until it's weathered for a season as you suggested on the phone.
Having said that I know very little about sealing paving so do you think it's a good idea if I manage to get the dust off with a pressure washer?
Thinking about it further, I think that this type of slate has a chance of some of the surface flaking away over the first few months.
Thanks for the info on the sealer too Roger.
Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2015 8:23 pm
Cheers Roger. That was pretty much the way I was thinking.
There are some absolutely beautiful prices of slate in that lot wet or dry.
I think even if the sealer just depend the colour ìt would be worth the expense.
There are some absolutely beautiful prices of slate in that lot wet or dry.
I think even if the sealer just depend the colour ìt would be worth the expense.