Material required for 36 sqm indian sandstone - Material

[silentninja]

Hi,

I'm been browsing the forum for a week and been reading the different threads but not able to find the details I need - so thought I may aswell ask.

I've got back garden of 36 sq metres where I would like to put down Indian Sandstone paving. I've been watching youtube videos and gather I need the following materials. Does this sound right?

Paving Slabs for 36 square metres
1 ton grey building sand
1 ton grit sand
8 bags cement
1 ton limsetone crush
1x5ltr plasterciser
3-4 tubs of easy joint

The ground is pretty hard soil (not clay) and is currently half a brick below the damp proof course. Would I need to dig down further to the clay and well below the damp proof course?

I plan to fit some channels to allow the rain water to drain away into the main gutter.

Advise will be really appreciated

[lutonlagerlout]

hmm
finished paving height must be 150 below DPC
for a residential patio this means you must dig out 300mmbelow DPC

for 36M

1 40M flags (to allow for cuts breakages and bad ones)

2 7 tonnes type 1 installed 100MM thick and wacked

3 4 tonnes grit sand

4 20 bags of OPC

5 10 litres of SBR

6 6 -7 tubes of w365

digging out roughly 2 6 yd skips

LLL

[Carberry]

What LLL said. Apart from the weatherpoint. Depends on the pattern and how many slabs you are using, but assuming a random pattern with equal numbers I reckon 4 tubs would do you, 5 to be on the safe side.

[lemoncurd1702]

Grit sand as in the type used in block paving, or as in plastering/ rendering sand?

[lutonlagerlout]

block paving sand
it seems to have many names countrywide so i stick to grit sand on here
in the merchants yesterday they called it sharp sand
day before it was screeding sand and last week it was river wash
LLL

[lemoncurd1702]

The coarseness of grit sand seems to vary from merchant to merchant some of it not much grittier than building sand. Bearing in mind that building sand in my area is dredged from the sea (not that mucky pit sand) I'm happy to use this for slabbing. It bonds better with the slab.

On that note I'm laying slate paving soon and would appreciate views on the bonding. As I prefer to lay on a wet flexible mix is it necessary to coat with a sbr/cement slurry or will just coating with the sbr be fine.

[johnty]

with having no experience using weatherpoint what are peoples thoughts on the pros and cons on using weatherpoint over traditional sand and cement

cheers john

[msh paving]

weather point all the way, it is so easy you can't make a stain or mess using it, the wetter the paving the better,
some will say its not stood the test of time but it has worked for me ok on alot of jobs,
sand and cement will be cheaper but if your not used to pointing you stand the risk or stains which wont happen using weatherpoint or a similar product MSH

[lutonlagerlout]

weatherpoint is easy to use and does a fair job

IMHO sand and cement done right is superior but it costs more and you run big risks if there is rain

LLL

[johnty]

msh before we go into the topic of pricing can you tell me if the finish of the weatherpoint is too a standard your happy with ?
reason i ask marshall recently did a promo at local builders yard to me and i seen the finished product of easy point which i will try to attach a picture of ,which i honestly thought was crap, the finish with sand and cement i can only see as been on a different panet myself. what are your thoughts ?

cheers john

[johnty]

ok msn

sadly i cant find the original pic i had of the weatherpoint but hopefully you can see the link below of a weatherpoint finished job ,
perhaps you may agree its not the best to say the least ?

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[lutonlagerlout]

depends on your view of the aesthetics johnty

I try and lay with a 10mm joint and keep the 365 to a lighter colour than that

for a polymeric its pretty good

LLL

[johnty]

well yes fair comment lll

ours are obviously different

cheers john

[lutonlagerlout]

if you are laying honed sandstone/limestone johnty then products like weatherpoint are excellent
no mess whatsoever and no dramas with rain or spillage

as said I prefer sand and cement but its no fun hanging around for dry days

cheers LLL

[johnty]

hi lll

and how do you find it from a costing perspective compared to using sand and cement ?

cheers john