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Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 7:23 pm
by marsaday
I am going to be doing a patio on a house i rent out and so want to use the cheapest material possible really.
I have looked and the indian paving on ebay is the cheapest i can get - same price as crappy concrete stuff really.
So i just wanted to see if anyone had used this paving before. It is about 20-30mm thick and costs £15.35 delivered.
On ebay this one is called Kaddappa, but there is a slightly more expensive one called Kotah/Kota.
Is there any difference between these two or are they the same thing, just different names.
I have used indian for my own patio and this has been fine, but it is the sandstone stuff. So is the limestone version much different, apart from being a bit cheaper ?
Ps, just read about the limestone fading, but i am not too bothered by this.
Maybe i could get some better recommendations for stuff to use on the patio which is cheaper than £15/sqm delivered ?
Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 8:18 pm
by lutonlagerlout
TBH if you are bottom feeding you are likely to get stuff of a lesser quality and harder to lay
i rent out places and wouldnt use black limestone because renters rarely care for their rented houses
I would use 600 by 600 council greys circa £10 per metre and nigh on impossible for the renters to wreck
also you do get tax relief on maintenance on property you rent out,something to bear in mind
Cheers LLL
Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 9:16 pm
by marsaday
Would rather pay extra 5 per metre = extra £150 because overall finish will be better and add greater capital value.
I patio is not really an area where you can do too much damage (compared to carpets for example).
All the money is in the labour and i am doing that myself.
Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 10:13 pm
by lutonlagerlout
black limestone is one of the more popular search terms on here because it is high maintenance
as with all limestone it can be affected by acids
also it is susceptible to bleaching
the time for a decent patio is about 2 weeks before you plan to sell
IMHO
good luck
LLL
Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 11:24 pm
by London Stone Paving
marsaday wrote:Would rather pay extra 5 per metre = extra £150 because overall finish will be better and add greater capital value
Not if the black limestone patio gets trashed by your new tenants
Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2013 8:42 am
by Tony McC
If the property being rented is at the higher end of the market, then a natural stone patio would probably be appreciated, but when it comes to value paving for the loower end of the market, you can't beat LLL's suggestion of good old 3x2's,m or 2x2's for lighter handling.
Easy to lay (easier than uncalibrated Kaddapha Black!), easy to maintain (no fading, resistant to mild acids and patio cleaners, less prone to algae and lichens) and much harder to damage with spilled wine, dumped furniture, dog crap, barbecues, etc.
There's a reason why they are used so commonly on the nation's public footpaths!
Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2013 10:19 am
by PavingSuperstore
Just in answer to your question regarding the kadapha/ kaddapha and the kota/kotah blue, the main real difference from an aesthetics point of view is the colour. The kadapha is a black limestone whereas the kota is a blue/grey limestone. The kadapha won't stay black however as it's naturally bleached by sunlight so will become more of a steely grey over time. Some people seal the kadapha or use colour intensifiers to strengthen/ protect the colour if they want it to remain as dark as possible. Visually, the natural stone will beat the concrete hands down, but it's whether it's looked after by your lodgers that counts in the long term. Will a nicer garden enable you to charge more rent for the property? We've got black limestone on sale at the moment for £17.98 per m2 inc vat & delivery and this is with Natural Paving, which is a decent brand, although I think there may be other stone types that would be easier to maintain than black limestone for your requirements.
Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2013 8:23 am
by marsaday
Thanks for info paving SS.