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Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2013 10:34 am
by k13wjd
Right guys - Im in a bit of a pickle - and i know there is likely a simple option, i just need a push in the right direction

Roughly 8m2 paving with 15mm joints 20mm deep ( varies!)
and 9 linear meters of 100x100x100 rustic granite cubes. Rustic meaning : my mix was to wet and they settled in funny positions, leaving uneven gaps and heights.

anyway
Here's what i need to point
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I foolishly grabbed a tub of grey geofix - that will be going back as its not suitable for use on a solid bed ( all of this is on 2 inches of wetmix - monoblock included. Massive issue with weeds here)

Anyway - i don't want to use a cement based product as i can't stop the weather here - and with a solid bed it has nowhere to go, I'd end up with stained limestone AND monoblock. I have 2 bags of easipoint black, but was planning on offloading them as the last time i used it i didn't really get on very well with it.

So that leaves me with : Weatherpoint i guess ? Im thinking that 2 15kg tubs will suffice for this, I'll put a layer of sand along the leading edge of the monoblocks (to stop the weatherpoint from washing over onto them) and just point the cubes and paving in one go, strike it and be done? £100 seems a bit ott to point this job, but i can't help the weather, frost, etc.

If so, buff or grey ?

Thoughts on this guys -I have a limited time to get this done ( its my own house, and winter is coming FAST!)

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2013 12:29 pm
by r896neo
If you can get your hands on it i have been using larsen FJM recently and its great! Very fast setting and just need a brush and hose to clean it off. Its a little daunting first time and worth a trial run to check the timings but its only 8 quid plus VAT for a 25kg bag.

I have already raked out and re-pointed 2 sandstone jobs which were done with the dreaded rompox easy 2 years ago.

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2013 4:38 pm
by k13wjd
slurry? on limestone?

surely that's going to stain the flags?

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2013 4:41 pm
by DNgroundworks
As you say, weatherpoint will do it, easipoint would be preferred if it was me, i just prefer the finish of a troweled mortar on stone flags.

I have just spent over 400quid on gftk vdw 800 for a 14 metre sett driveway :p

Cant say im a huge fan of them setts are they new cropped ones?

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2013 4:42 pm
by DNgroundworks
slurry wont stain, just puts a sheen on the flags, not sure what larsen is.

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2013 5:07 pm
by k13wjd
I do have 2 bags of eadipoint, but after a total mare with it last time, im reluctant to attempt it. full bag mixxed and used in time by one man....id end up rushing (and fecking it up!)

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2013 5:10 pm
by DNgroundworks
when im on my own i only mix half a bag at a time, simples :)

If youve already got the easipoint then its a no brainer for me, save yourself the cost of another jointing material and use what you have.

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2013 5:29 pm
by k13wjd
still use a drill and baddle to mix it? any idea how it reacts to frost?

pretty chiilly up here now, -4 lastnight.

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2013 5:41 pm
by DNgroundworks
yea, i use a makita plaster's paddle, well if it aint set then it wont respond well to frost i imagine, id get all that gunned in first thing in a couple of hours, let it set then cover it up with hessian or better still old carpet.

Watch the weather and pick a day where the frost at night will be minimal, not ideal tbh, but it aint freezing every night yet.

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2013 5:49 pm
by lutonlagerlout
weatherpoint will do the job
those new cubes look horrible,but my supplier has the same and i wont use them
2 tubs will do it,take around 2 hours wet the surface then push the W365 in
brush off
you could go vdw800 or 850 but its overkill for a patio
LLL

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2013 6:36 pm
by k13wjd
grey better than buff if I go w365?

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2013 6:40 pm
by k13wjd
oh, and if its not fristy, its raining....welcome to Scotland!

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2013 7:40 pm
by lutonlagerlout
i like the buff better but the choice is yours
LLL

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2013 8:07 pm
by k13wjd
Yeah, i was leaning towards buff over grey. W365's grey is really like a white with silver through it - much like the granite. I think buff would set it out a bit better.

I think given my time constraints and weather issues, Weatherpoint is the way forwards. If anyone wants to buy 2 bags of black easipoint in edinburgh or glasgow, I'm yer man !

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2013 8:33 pm
by mickg
this might sound like a dumb ass question but why on earth would you want to put buff with the dark colours, its screaming out for a grey colour pointing !!

weastherpoint 365 or similar brush in product is the only way forward