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Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 9:26 pm
by Mikey_C
right gents the patio is finally laid I just need to point it.
the question is what pointing material:-
I want something:-
non-permeable. (so it doesn't go green over time)
jet wash proof. (north facing patio with foliage near by, meaning at least 1 wash a year possible two)
suitable colour for the patio below.
ideally it can be done by one man in typical British weather.
the last point is optional, as I may be able to get semi skilled labour (competent individuals, just little experience of paving)
for the right product I am willing to say money no object.
I have a supplier locally who can source any of the romex range.
Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 9:34 pm
by dig dug dan
easipoint. 10 different colours. mines been down 3 years now and its been bulletproof. Survived harsh weather and pressure washing. Still looks like new
Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 9:37 pm
by Mikey_C
Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 9:38 pm
by Mikey_C
Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 9:41 pm
by lutonlagerlout
gotta be sand and cement mikey
easipoint from here too
LLL
Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2013 1:07 pm
by Mikey_C
I'm not sure my back can take eaispoint, bending over is the worst thing for it!
I know there is a variation in joint widths nothing is smaller than 5mm, I will be grinding these out to expanding them.
I was edging towards ultrascapes, Flowpoint - Flowable Paving Grout.
This is despite the fact I will be left with cement based slurry which will be difficult to get rid of, having seen cookies time lapse with the belt cleaner I would be having a dabble with that if it wasn't for the riven nature of my slabs.
I also need to seal the patio, I was wondering with what the place I got the slabs from sell lithofin range and this stuff, so that is going to be their recommendation, any other offers?
Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2013 2:40 pm
by Bob_A
To save backache kneel down and sit on your heels. Works for me but I have a strong knees and a weak back.
I hope LLL doesn't mind me quoting him but just the other day he said
i agree mark ,but after falling out of love with geo%%%% and then romp*& why should i let any other polymeric oil salesmen lead me down that path again?
I like to give a 10 year guarantee on work and cant do that with any brush in polymeric
sand and cement AKA easipoint or larsen is tried and trusted over the centuries in the british climate
I've never heard anyone on here have a problem with a sand/cement based product so if I were to do my patio again it would be an Easipoint type of product
Nice patio by the way. You are wise to do some research brfore pointing.
Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2013 5:47 pm
by Mikey_C
i know what you mean bob (and LLL) sand in cement is bullet proof, its just I have hit the wall with this patio. I need it pointed and seal before the onset of the bad whether. the flowpiont is a rapid setting cement based product hence I am giving it the time of day, cookies slurry point and machine is also sand/cement method.
Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2013 9:58 pm
by lutonlagerlout
get someone to do it for you mikey
i agree it needs doing
also regarding sealants my tiler recommends LTP
LTP
a fair bit cheaper than lithofin stainstop but at first glance seems to do the same job
LLL
Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2013 11:12 pm
by RAPressureWashing
lutonlagerlout wrote:get someone to do it for you mikey
i agree it needs doing
also regarding sealants my tiler recommends LTP
LTP
a fair bit cheaper than lithofin stainstop but at first glance seems to do the same job
LLL
LLL
Sorry to jump in here but I have had to repair a couple of paving s that have had this product put on them, not sure if it is the product or the persons applying but it has failed either way you look at it, sorry.
Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2013 11:33 pm
by haggistini
I have been using flowpoint of late as it is awesome, strong, good value and quick if your geared up for it.
2500psi + bowser type pressure washer at hand.
Foam squeegees double blade type
Gorilla tubs
Hose pipe constantly filling bowser
And a few boys who know what they are doing with the mix ie not to much spread out in this heat!!
That would be done in 2 hrs flat!
Only down side looks commercial to some people
I have core drilled 6" thick granite setts that I flowpointed and couldn't separate the flow point from the sett with a 2lb lump with out splitting the granite too rock hard pointing.!!
Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2013 11:39 pm
by lutonlagerlout
tell me more roger?
the tiler applied it with a sponge and when dry it was invisible
when we applied water it balled up the same as lithofin
so what happened?
cheers LLL 
Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 6:35 am
by RAPressureWashing
lutonlagerlout wrote:tell me more roger?
the tiler applied it with a sponge and when dry it was invisible
when we applied water it balled up the same as lithofin
so what happened?
cheers LLL
LLL
I'll try to find the photos tonight re the LTP product, it badly failed on Limestone, but as I said it might have been the application of it. Steve from London Stone will remember the paving and might have photos as well, it was the one we cleaned up about 18 months ago.
Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 11:12 am
by London Stone Paving
I remember the job well Rog. In that case it was definately bad installation. LTP has a much higher quantity of carrier than lithofin or Drytreat so will need more regular re-application
Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 7:19 pm
by Bob_A
haggistini wrote:I have been using flowpoint ..........................
What you class Flowpoint as a product loosely based on sand/cement?
