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Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2013 1:13 pm
by CJF
Hi
I'm based in the west midlands smethwick and wondered if anyone could help with any of these questions.
1. Good supplier for paving slabs
2.I would like black or grey slabs with a mixture of sizes. Is there a Slab I can buy that does not fade?
3. My garden is quite small is and Im trying to make it look as big as possible. We will have a a patio then all lawn. Is there a better colour to go for to make the garden look bigger.
4. What sort of questions should I ask fitters when quoting for the work.
5. Can anyone recommend any patio fitters in my area.
Any advice would be much appreciated.
Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2013 2:09 pm
by lutonlagerlout
1 www.londonstone.com
2 slate
3 big sizes i.e. 900 by 600 slabs
4 least clutter as possible and clean lines
5 think a brew cabin irregular mick avalon is somewhere in your area
http://www.avalonlandscapes.co.uk/index.htm
cheers LLL
Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2013 2:32 pm
by CJF
Hi Thanks very much for the quick response.
If I use slate will this have good modern finish? Could it break as I often think that slate is very brittle?
Thanks for the great advice
Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2013 4:27 pm
by Westminster Stone
Slate can be brittle, but it's usually fairly good these days. Monsoon/twilight is a sandstone product that sounds like it would fit the bill, it is the darkest sandstone available, it doesn't fade and comes in a random size pack, from £26 per sq meter, see images on link: [url=https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=globa ... 15.img.Ase
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Edited By Westminster Stone on 1370359745
Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2013 5:07 pm
by lutonlagerlout
sorry I should have mentioned all the contributors on here
slabs
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LLL
Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2013 5:31 pm
by London Stone Paving
Brazilian slate is the best. Its extremely dense which means its not going to delaminate and it also splits very evenly which gives a nice flat surface, however it does come with a hefty price tag.
Chinese slate is also very dense and you wont have any issues with delamination unless you buy some very poor quality stuff. Chinese slate is not as flat as Brazilian but a lot cheaper.
Indian slate is the one to avoid. Its not very dense and as such will delaminate and chip. Stay well away from it. Its easy to distinguish. It will be cheap as chips and only available in smaller sizes (usually 600x400 and smaller)
The monsoon might not be the best choice if you are looking to achieve a modern finish. A couple of reason for that. Black Indian sandstone is a heavily riven slab which will be better suited to traditional/rustic garden styles. Also it sounds like its only available in random sizes, which again does not lend itself well to a modern garden design
Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2013 10:41 pm
by CJF
Hello all,
I have looked at some pictures of Brazilian slate and like this a lot. However there does seem some variation in the finish on the slate some look shiny as if its wet and some others have more of a matt finish. There also seems to be some slate with a bumpy surface and some smooth i prefer completely smooth. It would be good to see some Brazilian slate to see if it is right. I can't seem to find anywhere local that stocks it so i can see it. Any ideas where I can see Brazilian slate? I did have a look at the London stone website but I can't see any Brazilian slate it just says blue black paving
Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2013 11:19 pm
by London Stone Paving
There are not too many companies that sell Brazilian slate due to the cost. But there is a company somewhere that does it at a reasonable price, but I don't know if it's any good.
http://www.tradepricestoneltd.co.uk/brazilian_slate_pavers_and_paving/
I had a look on there and the Brazilian slate is priced almost the same as the Indian slate. I honestly don't have a clue how they can do that because Indian slate should be a lot cheaper than Brazilian
The smooth slate you talk of will have a honed surface. This is not ideal for outdoor use and you really need a riven finish. Brazilian slate is available in a riven finish, so no issue there
Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 9:09 pm
by CJF
London Stone Paving wrote:There are not too many companies that sell Brazilian slate due to the cost. But there is a company somewhere that does it at a reasonable price, but I don't know if it's any good.
http://www.tradepricestoneltd.co.uk/brazilian_slate_pavers_and_paving/
I had a look on there and the Brazilian slate is priced almost the same as the Indian slate. I honestly don't have a clue how they can do that because Indian slate should be a lot cheaper than Brazilian
The smooth slate you talk of will have a honed surface. This is not ideal for outdoor use and you really need a riven finish. Brazilian slate is available in a riven finish, so no issue there
Hi,
I have found this site very useful but I'm now a bit confused. I really like the grey and black patios with a modern/contemporary finish. However it seems these are prone to problems such as fading or very expensive if you go for Brazillian. Is there any other options I could consider?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm....2617513
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm....2617513
Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 10:28 pm
by lutonlagerlout
they are tiles dude
10mm thick
little more than large roof tiles
caveat emptor
LLL
Posted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 10:34 pm
by London Stone Paving
No comment :p on the "tiles"
About the colour fade. Slate does not fade, so its not something you need to worry about. There is nothing to be confused about. You are obviously looking for a dark stone, what is your budget per m2 and I will be able to point you in the right direction
Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 12:58 pm
by CJF
lutonlagerlout wrote:they are tiles dude
10mm thick
little more than large roof tiles
caveat emptor
LLL
Woops just checked my link and posted the wrong one. I had lots of windows open at the time. Those tile im not keen on at all. Mor something like this.
http://compare.ebay.co.uk/like....&ff19=0
http://www.google.co.uk/search?....bih=666
Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 12:35 pm
by London Stone Paving
That's Chinese slate. The spec says that its 20-30mm thick, so its ok or use outdoors. The only slight drawback is that I think you have to buy full crates. If you could tailor your design to work round this, then happy days. Otherwise you might end up with lots of leftover stone which defeats the point of getting a good price