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Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 4:22 pm
by vernalot
Hi. I have been using this site for a few years and the wealth of info has been amazing, so thankyou for all your work.

however i have scoured your pages and find i have a couple of questions i cant answer. First a description of the job.

approx 10 m x 8 m.
Marshall Saxon natural 600x600
single line of slabs around edge with single line block pavers laid stretcher to create border. Slabs laid 45 degrees and staggered in centre of the border.

slabs laid on solid mortar bed (wet mix)
close jointed 3 - 5 mm. Unbuttered joints.

i was planning on using a polymeric to point it all having read your pages on this subject. But my first question was:

using a material with the wet process looks like it will provide a sounder joint, but the Marshall Saxon are pretty rough and course surfaced and I'm not sure how well they will clean up. I assume the dry technique will be less likely to get stuck in the hollows and easier to clean up. Time is not an issue and i don't mind spending the extra time compacting the material in the joints. Would a wet technique be ok?

however, looking at the products available locally, they all have a minimum joint width of 5,6 or 10 mm depending on product. Looking at your pages on the subject you had recommended polymerics for 3 mm and up. The products i have looked at are stonemarket fast point (10mm joint), geofix paving jointing compound for dry use only (5mm joint) and geofix all weather for wet use (6mm joint). Also saw cementone wide jointing compound, but based on the name assume this is not an option. I spoke to geofix and they said anything less than five mm wont bond.

so question 2 is, are any of these products of use for my 3 - 5mm joints. Some joins are up to 10mm or more (all the awkward cuts I'm afraid, particularly as on one side is a raised circular brick edged lawn, so the border on one side is a long curve too boot). If not, is there a solution you can recommend.

i fear i have made a rod for my back making my joints so tight, but the range of widths within the pattern means kiln dried sand isn't an option for much of it and I'd like a solution that can be used on the whole area with a consistent look.

any advice will be much appreciated. And i hope the response isn't pull it all up and start again :D

Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 5:02 pm
by dig dug dan
i allways lay these butt jointed. Its how they are designed to be laid, and how they are displayed in the catalogue
Your best bet is easyjoint. you literally wash it in with water as you go, and it goes off after a few days.
Did one 6 months ago, its been pressure washed a dozen or so times and is still rock solid.

Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 5:06 pm
by lutonlagerlout
pressure washed a dozen times in 6 months dan?
thats OTT :laugh:
LLL

Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 5:09 pm
by dig dug dan
pressure washed a dozen times in 6 months dan?
thats OTT :laugh:


Ahh. good reason for it. It was so wet, we were unable to prepare the ground for turfing, and as such, the customers dog was running all over the mud, then all over the patio, so he kept on pressure hosing it.It was sealed sandstone from london stone, so it washed easily
We finally turfed it last week, 6 months after we landscaped!




Edited By dig dug dan on 1366737302

Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 5:38 pm
by vernalot
Thanks guys. They were reclaimed from a school and have been sitting on my drive for five years waiting to be laid, so never saw them on display and catalogues. Easyjoint sounds perfect with a recommended min joint of 3mm. But seems too good to be true. Anyone else used it? Trying to find a local supplier seems tricky in Suffolk.

cheers

Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 5:42 pm
by vernalot
Doh.... Just realised the company who make it is ten miles down the road. Please scratch last comment about sourcing a local supply!