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Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 11:15 pm
by cronshd
Hi this is my first post.

My builder has quoted the following:

Supply and fit 5.230 M³ compacted type1 hardcore sub base.
Fit only 51 M² of patio slabs.
Supply 2.615 M³ sand and 27no. cement for laying 51 M² patio

The cost of this is £3100 - excluding VAT.

Is this reasonable?
Any advice/comments?

Many thanks, D

Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 11:27 pm
by GB_Groundworks
yeah kinda equals 100mm of subbase, but what slabs is he supplying? what jointing?

any drianage?

seems a random method of quoting like straight out an estimator package or calculator?

Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 11:30 pm
by jonnyboyentire
Seems a bit cheap to me to be honest. Am i just overtired or is that a lot of dust for that job? What area are you in?

The only thing I would warn you would be have a check of his previous paving works, spoken from seeing two or three substandard jobs done by builders despite the extensions being spot-on.

No offence to any well-versed-in-landscaping-builders of course!!!!!

Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2011 12:10 am
by local patios and driveway
seems cheap to me. id hazard a guess at 4500 without looking

Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2011 12:35 am
by lutonlagerlout
seems a little cheap and vague
we have been using type 1for 25 years,why use hardcore?
cement is about what i would use so he seems on the ball
LLL

Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2011 7:29 am
by mickavalon
Hard to tell, are they budget slabs, is the ground prepped, hard to tell from what you've said, but does seem cheap, and I agree, I've seen loads of badly executed "Builders" Patios over the years, horses for courses and all that!

Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2011 8:03 am
by local patios and driveway
im under the impression the client is to supply the stone

Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2011 3:15 pm
by cronshd
local patios and driveways wrote:im under the impression the client is to supply the stone
Yes - we are to supply the stones.

Actually, this covers two distinct areas - and on one we are thinking of some kind of slate-y type stone at c. £40/m and for the other (sharp intake of breath) the Easi-Grass (or whatever it is called) which would be ideal for our needs. I think that was quoted to me at £60/m at Grand Designs (all in on top of a hard core base).

So the total would come in at c. £6-7k all in for this area.

Any further comments? (I am expecting a few brickbats regarding the Easi-Grass!!)

Cheers, D.

Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2011 3:26 pm
by ilovesettsonmondays
it certainly isnt cheap . he is forking 500 quid at the very max for sand and stone 100 for cement . leaving 2500 for a weeks work max for 2 men .

Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2011 3:55 pm
by cronshd
ilovesettsonmondays wrote:it certainly isnt cheap . he is forking 500 quid at the very max for sand and stone 100 for cement . leaving 2500 for a weeks work max for 2 men .
So if it is c. £600 for the materials, how does the rest break down into:

1. Laying the hard core
2. Laying the paving slabs

Guess what I am asking now is, how much per sq m. is it to lay the paving slabs? There must be some reasonable benchmarks which are used?

Or, to put it another way, what %age of time would be spent on the hard core versus laying the paving slabs. My laymans guess is 60:40 (Paving:Hard core).

Thanks, D

Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2011 3:56 pm
by ilovesettsonmondays
its a day at the max for two men to lay the type 1 .a very very max

Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2011 3:58 pm
by ilovesettsonmondays
i charge a score on average for laying the slabs per m .

Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2011 8:02 pm
by lutonlagerlout
£20 a mtre laying only is about right inc pointing of course
you will be surprised how much the rest mounts up
LLL