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Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 7:46 pm
by DNgroundworks
Hi all planning on doing a patio in marshalls fairstone sawn sandstone paving, i think a narrow joint of around 6mm would look best so therefore i reckon slurry jointing would be appropriate. Question time - what slurry should i use? cement based? romex? GTFK? obviously i dont want to stain the stone and ive ...ahem never used a slurry before! any tips?

Would it be best to seal the stone first before jointing? its going to get sealed after anyway.

Regards Dan.

Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 8:03 pm
by ilovesettsonmondays
hi , if your not going to use a belt cleaner ,i wouldnt use a cement based slurry . why not use the aspects one or something similiar romex dran etc . if you do use cement based one . get as much slurry off with squeegy and keeping the stone misted is the key . how much are the slaBS PER metre.

Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 8:50 pm
by darrenba
I used Marshalls Weatherpoint when I did some Marshalls Fairstone a few months ago. I think we had about an 8mm joint, turned out very well indeed.

See this earlier thread
http://ext.pavingexpert.com/cgi-bin....;t=9014

Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 9:03 pm
by pickwell paving
Just had the same problem Dan using marshalls eclipse granite we laid it with 5mm joints and the only realistic way of jointing was a slurry. Never used one before either and as mentioned was a bit cautious about using a cement based one, spoke to Dave at NCC Streetscape and ordered some of their GFTK which turned up today in basalt ready for pointing tomorrow. Give him a call because the joints are so tight it doesn't work out too expensive I needed 3 tubs to do 60 sqm. :)

Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 10:00 pm
by lutonlagerlout
why cant the joints be 10mm?
make life easier and you can be sure of a full joint
I have noticed that cookie lays injun stone in courses rather than random and to my eye this looks neater as you dont have the problem with small or big joints multiplying,every course can be 570 or 610,the only thing is you cant use small units,which i despise anyway as they always seem to be mis sized,or out of square
LLL :)

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 8:07 am
by London Stone Paving
In my experience a 10mm joint on sawn paving does not look right. Draws your eye to the joint and not the paving. It is harder work doing a small joint but the look is superior. The durgun guns come with the copper end which you can pinch with a pair of pliers. As long as you've got a bucket and sponge on hand to wipe up any mess

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 11:41 am
by DNgroundworks
Cheers fellas, thats give me something to work with, but after the client finds out the price of of the marshalls flags i think they will change their mind lol!

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 11:42 am
by DNgroundworks
But they are very nice :)

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 11:49 am
by Carberry
Picture of that stone with 10mm joint. I laid it a few years ago, customer came to me with drawing and spec... you could park an artic on this patio. Hope this link works.
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Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 5:33 pm
by London Stone Paving
Nice looking work there Stewart. Is that stone slightly tumbled?

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 6:22 pm
by haggistini
Gtfk is an awesome product but pricey tho! I love using this stuff! it will leave a residue for a few weeks so sealing might have to wait it's perfect for very small gaps and thin calibrated stuff

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 6:59 pm
by Carberry
London Stone Paving wrote:Nice looking work there Stewart. Is that stone slightly tumbled?

Not as far as I know. It's the marshall's fairstone golden sand multi with edged with fairstone sawn and tumbled setts. The stone looked nice but for the price but I expected it be better calibrated.
Step made out of tegula blocks on edge and a lot of patience with the stihl saw.

[IMG]http://www.digitalhive.org/digiimg....MG]

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Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 6:20 am
by cookiewales
London Stone Paving wrote:In my experience a 10mm joint on sawn paving does not look right. Draws your eye to the joint and not the paving. It is harder work doing a small joint but the look is superior. The durgun guns come with the copper end which you can pinch with a pair of pliers. As long as you've got a bucket and sponge on hand to wipe up any mess
i will do 5mmto 8mm on sawn paving as per liverpool job gun pointed my gun from instasmac has plastic ends which you trim to size cheaper than copper and dont get squased :D :D

Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 10:12 pm
by GB_Groundworks
DNgroundworks wrote:Cheers fellas, thats give me something to work with, but after the client finds out the price of of the marshalls flags i think they will change their mind lol!
£56/m + vat?

Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 2:55 am
by lutonlagerlout
with coursed work 5-8mm is achievable,but i feel with a random layout you could be on a hiding to nothing
most jointing tools are designed for a 10mm joint and i feel you are getting in to the realms of tiling going smaller
just my 2p worth
LLL :)