Patio movement/frost question again..

[worz]

Hi all,

I have read a few posts that have similar problems to mine, but I would like to double check what to do, so sorry for repeating others...

I layed a Travertine patio 2 summers ago now. Put down a decent compacted sub base of type 1 then layed the whole lot on a mortar base. I butted all the flags against eachother in a random pattern.
After the frost this year and last I would say 90% of the patio is now loose. If I go out and walk on them now there is a little movement, I can hear them all moving against eachother as I walk. Most of them quieten down after walking on them a bit and a few of the worst ones I have lifted, releveled and replaced.
I dont want to have to do this every year, so what can I do?
I take it that this is due to water between the cracks and through the porous slabs expanding with the frost? Would sealing them help

Many thaks in advance.

worz

[lutonlagerlout]

worz butt jointing on the whole is a fail
most (95%) of slabs/flags need to be pointed
what gave you the idea to butt joint them?
LLL ???

[worz]

hmm thats a very good question and now i think about it i have no idea, I guess it was the only way i could see that the random pattern with different sizes slabs would fit together and look good

So bearing in mind i have screwed up, any suggestions?

Cheers
worz

[Dave_L]

Lift and relay - there's no easy way to say it Worz.

[Bob_A]

Even if they weren't butt jointed 90% is a lot to patch up.
Why not relay but get Tony to do you a design
http://www.pavingexpert.com/design.htm#form