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Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 12:29 pm
by rolysatch
Hi

this may seem like a bit of a stupid question but here goes. i'm going to lay my patio 18m2 with random size sandstone. the patio is going to be surrounded by a small wall 2-3 courses high, should i build the wall first and fit the slabs inside or lay the slabs and then build the wall around it?

and any idea how deep a footing i would need for 2-3 courses? should i dig and lay the footing, then lay and compact the subbase, then lay the bricks and then the slabs/sand+cement.

any advice appreciated

thanks in advance

roly

Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 12:41 pm
by GB_Groundworks
I'd build the Walls first as the footing will be wider than your wall but depends if you have a cut off saw or grinder to cut the slabs. I'd draw it out on graph paper or pay the gaffer Tony to design the layout for you Inc Walls etc. Should be about 50 for a design for such a small area if I remember.

Footing only needs to be couple of inches or use 4 inch solid blocks laid flat if you don't want to mix concrete, lay the blocks on a mortar bed on a layer of mot or if it's good dry ground lay the blocks straight on the sub strata

Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 12:46 pm
by rolysatch
thanks for the advice, i was only going to lay the bricks from the hieght of just above the compacted subase as there's going to be grass and mud on the other side of the bricks and they won't be seen - the patio is slightly sunken into the ground. so i figured it wouldn't matter about the footing being slightly wider than the bricks.

Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 12:57 pm
by GB_Groundworks
The width of the footing is more important than the depth really on a small
Wall as it'll stop it being pushed out of plumb, wants to be minimum of double the width of your wall. There's a section on the site on garden Walls I'm on my phone in my digger or I'd post the link

Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 4:51 pm
by rolysatch
thanks a lot i'll take a look

cheers

Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2011 6:41 am
by seanandruby
Another stupid question for you.....have you thought about drainage as it will be all enclosed ?