Joints not dark enough!!

[monkeyboyNo1]

Hi all! First post but longtime lurker and knowledge sucker!

Ive recently laid some state irregular paving for a customer with the pointing dyed darker to complement the stone. But today the customer called to say that there not happy with the colour of the joints and that in their opinion its too lighter colour.

Ive been round there tonite, And their right it is a bit to light really (my mistake i used a new dye that i hadnt used before)

Is there anything can do? is it possible to paint on a dye
solution to try and stain them darker?

Anyone ever been in this situation?

all help would be very much appreciated

[London Stone Paving]

Cant really advise you on a solution for the existing job (not aware of any dye products myself. but if they do exist, someone on this site will come to the rescue pretty quickly)

your best off using a romex or easipoint in the first place. Both these products have a dark shade available.

[GB_Groundworks]

was it a liquid or powder, heard much better things about the liquids

i'd try a test, cut an off cut up joint it with the mix and dye as original, leave to dry then try to paint on and see what happens on your test panel.

[mickg]

I stopped using dye in pointing due to the sun bleaching it out and the pointing ending up very pale in colour, used mainly black liquid dye when making good a 50mm strip to the pavement tarmac after installing new concrete edgings to the edge of a driveway, in a few months the jet black colour had turned to very pale grey hence why I now leave it the natural colour of a 4:1 mix of grit sand and cement

like already said the only way is to purchase easipoint or romex and the colour you require premixed, in my opinion anything you paint on will not last more than 12 months before it starts to look shabby

[monkeyboyNo1]

It was a liquid dye, Ive used dyed mixes plenty in the past without any problems but ive always stuck to the same brand of dye,
The job was finished last weekend so i was unable to buy from my usual merchant, so i bought dye from wickes and followed the recommended amounts for a dark shade, the mix looked about the same shade in the mixer and barrow as my usual dye but when dried its too light,

i will deffo try a test patch of any remedy suggested, to be honest it still looks good i just want the customer to be happy with the job.

ive thought that a weak solution of just water and dye brushed on

[lutonlagerlout]

dyes fade, pigments dont
the house next to me was repointed 4 years ago with black dye
it looked great for a year or so but now most of it apart from secluded locations has leached out
you are better off with easipoint ,or instarmac gunpoint.or even romex basalt
no paint on treatment is available AFAIK
if its that bad cutting out and repointing is your only option (arghhh)
LLL

[Bob_A]

This is more of a question then a suggestion but would an acid stain work?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Acid-To....1f19d1f

[monkeyboyNo1]

Cheers for the input guys, I asked a bricklayer working on a job today if he knew of anything that could do it
And he told me about these guys dyebrick" target="_blank">http://www.dyebrick.com/index.h....RL=http</a>

Their mortar kits look just right, I'm going to order a couple of sample kits and try some test areas I will report back on how it goes.
It looks like it could solve some problems and open up some some interesting possiblities with brick and concrete colours. Check out their colour panels page!

If it doesnt work then yea cut it out and re-do or back to the drawing board!

[rab1]

used pigments 4-5 yrs ago when we did our patio/edging etc and the colour is still holding strong. :;): ???

[lutonlagerlout]

now that is a very interesting product
the only worrying part is the endorsement by tommy walsh
i imagine it would be painstakingly slow
let us know how you get on m8
cheers LLL