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Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 5:12 pm
by Puzzles
Superb Site!
Just had the guys sort my front garden. Three raised beds, Granite green chippings, Blue slate. Divided by Silver Birch bricks (superb effect). Then flags in York pattern adjoining existing tarmac drive. (More parking area)This is a thin tarmac on concrete done many years before I moved here.
Sadly the mixer was placed on the tarmac drive! Quite a few spills not washed off right away. Spills from overfull wheelbarrowing. I have power washed but not good results. The area between the bricks and tarmac drive have three inch gaps and they propose to fill with 'cold tarmac'. The colours will not match!
Should I get some brick cleaner and try that? OR to get a really good result use Swiss-Seal (Integral Chemicals Ltd) Tarmac Resin OR Thomsons Drive Seal OR Wako Blacktop OR Premium Drive Sealer - Supamix.???
OR any other suggestions please. Area of existing drive : Width 3 metres and whole drive about 20 metres. Area affected is about in total six square metres.
Thanks for any views and guidance for a 72 year old!
Cheers
Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 6:40 pm
by lutonlagerlout
get the builders back!! it makes my blood boil when i see ppl leaving a mess like this on someones drive
i spent a whole day today cleaning a site after the plasterers,chipies,sparks ,plumbers and floor screeders ahd left their rubbish all over it,i wouldnt mind but some of them have left half eaten bags of chips in peoples garage etc
a job isn't done till its cleaned properly
hydrochloric acid is best,get it from a pool supply centre (32%) and watch that mortar stain bubble
make sure not too leave it on too long before washing with clean water and wear the safety gear==> it burns!!
cheers tony 
Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 8:40 pm
by Stuarty
Get them back as Tony said! They will be big enough and ugly enough to clean up after themselves.
Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 8:29 am
by Puzzles
Thanks for that! They do say they will clean it up BUT with a higher pressure Karcher than mine. That will blast off the tarmac as well, so it;s the Acid jobby. We shall see. Withhold about £300 until cleaned up ? Sounds right to me!
Plaese - - What is a Pool Supply Centre and where would one be in North Wales or is it mail order ?
Still learning! Winston Churchill said that you learn something new every day but by the end it's too late!
Regards.
Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 8:32 am
by Puzzles
Another thing gents.
Just a point. If I want to renovate the drive anyway, which of the poroducts I have mentioned would be best? Or is there another product you might care to suggest?
Regards. :p
Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 12:30 pm
by Stuarty
Yes, withhold part of the payment untill the job has been cleaned up. If they destroy the tarmac with their pressure washer they will just have to fix it. Pool supply centre is just a place where you find all the things you would need for a pool. If you cant find one and you know a dairy farmer they will almost certainly have hydrochloric acid.
I dont know much about renovating tarmac drives, ill leave that for one of the other lads on here.
Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 5:47 pm
by lutonlagerlout
yes the pool supply centre sells me a gallon of acid for £10.50 but it is highly corrosive,
i'm sure if you look in suppliers there are products that renovate a tired looking tarmac drive
i tried to do it with centaproof years ago and the result was horrendous,took me 2 days getting it off.
good luck
tony
Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 3:47 pm
by TarmacLady
The products you mentioned will not cover the spilt concrete - tarmac does not bond well to concrete.
The Ronseal DriveSeal product is but a latex paint -- there's no asphalt in it at all -- so it would camoflage the concrete, but will peel off the rest of your drive within a few months' time.
not familiar with the Swiss product, but the Supamix is the right product to be able to re-seal the tarmac area properly -it will renew the "velvety-black" look of new tarmac -- and will help prolong the life of the existing tarmac, as well.
Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 8:21 am
by Puzzles
Hi Tarmac Lady
That's most helpful. Thank you. There is still a skip to be moved which covers, I suspect, some more area of mortar / concrete spill. The lads were very careful not to spill more when mixing for the slabs! They put viscreen down first!
I am just waiting to see what their asctions and results will be later this week when they try their (higher pressure than mine) pressure Karcher.
I am told the local BM stock concrete remover but I am not going to comment or interfere until I see what the lads do and how it ends up.
Regards. JR
Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 12:00 pm
by Puzzles
All good fun now!
Yesterday the guys used Hydrochloric Acid on the cement spills on the tarmac drive. It bubbled nicely and with a stong brush and lots of water, it hosed away the cement. BUT!!!
Now I have the areas where the HCl Acid was applied in nice light grey in contracst to the 10 plus year old drive. It looks worse now than it did before!
Now it is raining and the 'lighter shade of grey' is very prominent. Any suggestions for the next step please.
Thanks in advance - hopeful as ever. ???
Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 3:00 pm
by TarmacLady
Give it a little bit of time -- it may be just the salts from the HCl need to be washed out.
Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 3:26 pm
by Puzzles
Hi agian Tarmac Lady
Many thanks. That could well be it. I'll get my Karcher out tomorrow and give it a blast.
Kind regards
Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 8:15 pm
by lutonlagerlout
ye it does make tarmac look a little weird at first, but it soon blends in
cheers LLL
Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2006 6:39 pm
by Purist
Puzzles
I am in the same situation you were in. A nice diluted concrete stain over my drive.
Did the hydrochloric acid 'stain' eventually blend in Ok?
Purist.
Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2006 6:40 pm
by Purist
Puzzles
I am in the same situation you were in. A nice diluted concrete stain over my drive.
Did the hydrochloric acid 'stain' eventually blend in Ok?
Purist.